I think everyone knows about the scary injury an Auburn player suffered during spring drills. It looks like he'll recover, although he lost feeling in his extremities for several minutes. What I just learned today was that it occurred while he and another person were getting into it before, during and after the whistle blew. The other player? Lee Ziemba. If anyone doesn't recognize the name, I'm sure others will clue them in. It does lend some credence, though, to the theory that a certain .... erm.... tag team block on Mr. Dorsey last season was not the result of an innocent missed audible, as certain Auburn apologists would like to suggest. Especially since that block occurred only one or two plays after Dorsey had gone past Ziemba like he was standing still. The ugliness of that block still gets to me. My apologies if I've duplicated a thread - a cursory scan of the threads didn't disclose one on this particular subject. All the best, X
I don't see the tie in. Players get heated and continue hitting after the whistle in practice all the time.
Depends on what "getting into it means". If it was some after the whistle jostling and accidental then I can't see an issue but if was a cheap shot then I think he should be looked at closely. I guarantee he will be "looked" at when we play again.
A chop-block takes two people, one hitting high in the front and the other hitting at or below the knees from the side or back. Ramsey went low on Dorsey, but it was Ziemba who went high. Like I have said, the theme on the Auburn forums is that there was an audible that one of the two missed, and that's why one went high and the other low on Dorsey. And the Auburn people now seethe at anyone who even mentions that block. My point is, given the timing of the block on Dorsey (very shortly after Dorsey made Ziemba look like a fool while on his way to sacking Auburn's QB), the thought might occur to some that Ziemba might have been just a tad pissed off at the time of the chop-block. The Coleman incident (serious injury occurring while Ziemba was pissed off) lends credence to the thought that there may have been no "missed audible" involved in the Dorsey block at all. And please understand, I'm very glad the prognosis is that Antonio Coleman will make a full recovery. X p.s. Wikipedia actually has a good discussion of chop-blocks ("team" blocks which are totally illegal, and very dangerous), vs. cut-blocks (solo blocks which are borderline illegal and almost, but not quite, as dangerous as chop-blocks).
no doubt, Dorsey owned him all night, his frustration had to be high. and I agree, he'll draw scrutinity this year, he'd better play clean.
I agree. It's football, and little "fights" happen all the time on the practice field when you have physical contact. In this case, I have to wonder a little bit. One of the high school coaches (Mobile area) made a comment last night that drew my interest to this story. We were discussing a few things and he brought up the game with Ramsey and Ziemba vs Dorsey and mention how easily Ziemba gets frustrated. I asked him why he would bring it up since it had nothing to do with what we were discussing and he said he had a few of his kids watching the practice. He asked what had happened and those kids said that Ziemba was twisting and turning Coleman throughout the practice. It was thier opinion that Ziemba was trying to hurt Coleman. Who knows? To a guy, they agreed that Ziemba lost control of his emotions when Coleman was hurt. I'm glad Coleman is going to be OK. I'm sure it was a very tense few minutes when he didn't have any feeling in his arms and legs. Just out of curiousity I called an Auburn *friend* who follows the program as closely as I follow Alabama. He said he was at the practice and it ticked him off because it seemed clear to him that it was an attempt to hurt Coleman. It's a physical sport...
That's definitely different than a little extra-cirricular, post whistle hitting. Thanks for the insight Terry
This AU o-line thing is beginning to sound like a broken record. Nice to see Tubbs still gettting a handle on damage control by emphasizing no intent. :rolleye33: Wasn't there another chop block in their bowl game? Was either of the two involved in that one as well? The excuses are getting real worn out.
