Another School shooting - Texas this time

As @dachsie puts it context is everything. As many of you may not be surprised I was a mouth breather as a kid, mainly due to allergies but one nonetheless. By high school I was pretty much over them but old habits die hard. My 9th grade football coach Hooks would take me aside and helped me concentrate on stopping. He and I became close and I saw him do many kindnesses.....to others. He also kicked my ass often when I needed straightening up. He and others also put a cap on bullying I think. His and other teachers discipline helped most of us learn what it was to grow up take responsibility and be men. Likewise my parents supported school discipline including paddling. Most of my friends and I would rather face a school paddle than the wrath of parents. I fear the inability to impose discipline in schools is one of the things that led to the current unruliness.

 

Still doesn’t mean the “adults” at the school should participate in hazing. We saw a little girl months ago kill herself because she was being bullied. We have conditioned younger people to think that they are special especially white kids, and it’s crushing and sometimes too much for them then handle when they find they aren’t.

 

Me and my wife used to debate being hard on our kids, but over the years we see we are doing the right thing.

It’s hard. You want them to be happy and have a good life, but they can be little shits. We don’t put up with it. We employ physical labor and exhaustion. Just like the military.

My oldest (9) called a girl at practice a few nasty words a few weeks ago. Basically, we had her so exhausted she couldn’t stand. Everything from running, push-ups, to picking up rocks. All day. No rest. Something about public punishment really stuck this time. We don’t wait until home to drop the hammer. I’ll have those kids pushing the concrete at the store if need be.

 

That’s the thing, you have to nurture but at the same time my kid is under no illusions. It’s a rat race and she is a rat just like all the other rats. Get the fucking cheese or die. Sounds kind of strange coming from the liberal isn’t it.

 

I dont think its strange. I think we tend to want the best. I mean, who doesn't want all kids to not starve? End world hunger?

I do, but I dont see a logical way that happens as long as humans are well, human... We are sneaky little things.

 

Were the adults actually hazing the shooter or did they try to help him by telling him he stunk when he actually may have stunk. They should have told him privately if that was the case. The adults were reported to be coaches. Coaches are known for yelling at players and not pulling any punches.

Every kid should feel like he or she is special but they still need to man up and stop whimpering when somebody tells them they're not. I've had coaches yell at me for fumbling or missing an assignment. It didn't make me want to shoot my teachers and classmates. I'm more convinced than ever that the problem is the psychotropic drugs doctors are prescribing because parents aren't doing their job.

 

There's a strong correlation between poverty and religion.

These findings from The Upshot are reinforced by previous research into the connections between religion and poverty. According to a 2010 Gallup poll, there is a strong, positive correlation between strict adherence to religion and privation. But while the Gallup poll reports a link between religious devotion and poverty, it doesn’t provide any insight into why it exits.

A study by independent research Dr. Tom Rees, published in the Journal of Religion and Society, suggests that in places without strong social safety nets to provide people with opportunities for upward mobility, people are more likely to rely on religion for comfort. As contradictory as it may seem, when someone is suffering it may console him or her to think that the end of the world is near—that God will bring it to a close and reward the faithful with everlasting joy. Doom and gloom predictions about the trials and tribulations that humanity will face before the apocalypse, prevalent in Christian fundamentalism, may also help some people attribute a higher purpose to their suffering, explaining it as “part of God’s ultimate plan.”

 

Agree but it's still gonna happen even if subtly. In the end it's the animal kingdom and the weak will be told they are the weak in some form or fashion.

Actually its not that kids are told they are special its they should be told that but made to believe they can make a difference. The failure to do so by their parents is the disconnect. All kids should know they can accomplish whatever with the love and belief from their parents. That's kinda the main job. Being the best person they can be regardless where that ends up in said pecking order.

 

It's certainly the part which removes the humanity from the equation.

 

As a teacher, it isn't something I would do. Coaches are a different breed. I know. I lived with one, and he was actually very kind...but would certainly get tough.

It still seems like a false narrative. He wasn't using semi-automatic weapons, so let's spin THIS shooting as bullying and blame the victims. Honestly, he was a pretty big, hulking kid. Those big kids usually aren't bullied.