Another Great Coaching Performance from John Brady

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  1. Tygrr

    Tygrr Win the West

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    That's part of the problem I notice with Brady's teams. They lack discipline. Disciplined teams don't make foolish fouls and turnovers late in the game. I know this team is young, but lack of discipline has always been an issue with Brady's teams and that falls back on the coach.
     
  2. TGer'nLHornLand

    TGer'nLHornLand Founding Member

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    Ok, so it seems the venom is out in full force, and so, I'll post one last retort and see how things go the next game out... :yelwink2:

    1. Why Brady didn't attack the press? Actually, if you go back and watch, the kids WERE attacking the press. GTemple took the ball to the rack as did CJ off of BREAKING the 'Nova press. To my chagrin, I maybe would have liked them to pull the ball out and eat up some clock, but I know there are folks that will debate the "keep aggressive keep scoring" vs. eat clock. We did have some inopportune cough ups, Bo Spencer slipping and travelling, MT throwing a lazy pass pushing the ball up to CJ (who's not a guard).

    2. Consistent performance--to be a consistent top 25 school in baseball, basketball and football. Well, first do the numbers crunching and say what colleges can even do that. Florida, ok, recently. Who else? Ohio State (do they have a baseball team?), maybe a USC? Ok, then see what those AD departments pay their coaches across the board. Billy d is a 2M per, Thad Matta is up there, Floyd is up there (with a new arena). Most schools pick their sports and excel in those. I guess my point is yes, we should all aspire to be a top 25 program across the board. Actually achieving that is a combination of funding, support and yes, hiring and paying for the best coaches. Until the LSU AD department commits to basketball... well, you know.

    3. What has Brady done? Well, to be fair, he had a probation to deal with the first half of his tenure. In that time he took a team that he cobbled together (not sure that Temple had anything to do with that) around Stro' and took them to an SEC Championship and a Sweet 16. Between that year and 2006, he had a few NCAA appearances and NIT appearances. Didn't necessarily make big waves then. Two years ago, he went to the final four--let's just for sake of argument throw out the Collis Temple comment, b/c to now "discredit" a coach for how he gets his recruits is kind of absurd (every school has their network around them to help recruit). So, then stack up Brady's NCAA appearances, Final Four, Sweet 16s, SEC winning % against every other current SEC hoops coach. What you find is there have been plenty of coaches, Gottfried, Pearl, Stallings, Lebo etc., with the possible exception of Billy D (recently), who have worse resumes (without probation). So, what does stand for? I guess if you were at Vandy, 'Bama, Auburn, you guys wouldn't be complaining? My point is it's easy to bash Brady after this game, but actually over his tenure, he's been competitive in the SEC while being handicapped for the early part of his year.

    Finally, I'll be the first to say that 10 years is a long time, and probation is no longer an excuse. Brady does have his issues, and he doesn't deserve a free pass for too long. He went to the final four and expectations are higher. Skip should be evaluating him every year's end, IMO.
     
  3. swampmamma

    swampmamma Founding Member

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    That game broke my heart last night too. I am very excited about this group of guys, they're explosive and young. I've never understood why we have Brady as our coach, either. Perhaps we all need to let our opinion be known to those who pay him.
     
  4. TigerWins

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    All those empty seats in the PMAC should serve as an opinion to someone in the AD office.

    They must be blind.
     
  5. friday

    friday Founding Member

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    I think Brady needs to take much of the blame for this loss. No, he didn't needlessly foul in the backcourt with a 10 point lead, miss FTs or shockingly foul a 3 pt shooter. What he did do was display terrible body language on the bench throughout the final 8 mins of this game. This, IMO, led to the team playing very tight which led to some stupid plays down the stretch. I have never been a fan of the way Brady conducts himself on the bench during games. The constant ripping of the refs, screaming at the players and overall look of disgust. Players feed off the energy of the coach and Brady demonstrates a lot of negative energy on the bench. The coach must show he's in control of the game with a young team. Brady failed to do this which led to last night's debacle. You have to keep your composure as a coach if you want your team to play composed. Remember all those things Brady said after the Final 4 run? He was going to be more composed coach - respect the officials and his players and not wear his heart of his sleeve. I sure haven't seen it.

    This was an unfathonable loss. Not that LSU was up by 21 with 8 mins to go - it was the fact that they were up by 15 with 3 mins to go!! Instead of making Nova shorten the game (who was down by 15?), LSU did it for them. Again, I feel that, although the players made some inexplicable plays down the stretch, much of the blame should be placed on Brady and his antics. This, IMO, is Brady's biggest weakness as a coach.

    I gotta disagree with TexTiger for the lack of a TO on that last possession, I think Brady made the right call there. This is the not the NBA - you don't get the ball at halfcourt. LSU had done nothing in its half court offense since randolph went out. I felt that the only way that the tigers were going to get a decent shot was to push the ball up.

    Bottom line is that the players didn't lose the game, Brady lost it.
     
  6. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    I agree with all of this. Calling a TO on the last possession is neither here nor there. It isn't a coincidence that Nova came back and won when Brady had LSU stop running the offense they had been running all night. After he slowed things down, we didn't get one good look after that because they were forced to run the shot clock down on each possession and then throw up prayers for 10 straight possessions.

    That's what lost the game. And Temple's stupid foul on the 3 didn't help.
     
  7. aztiger

    aztiger Missing Crawfish & LSU

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    I think Brady should be gone, If you look at how consistant we were (20 wins) under Brown it is clear. Also Brady has a reputation of being a jerk in the college basketball world that hurts him and the program.

    Just my two cents.
     
  8. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    If I hear one more thing about probation I'm going to hurt people. Save probation as an excuse for someone else OK? Just keep that to yourself.

    We're talking about 10 YEARS here man. Brady has complained about depth since he got here and even with a scholarship reduction those first couple years, depth issues were his own doing.

    Before probation took effect we had a full team of young guys. They may have been average players but they were bodies nontheless. He ran off half of those and therefore created his own depth issues. He added to those issues by signing an ineligible player with his ONE friggin' scholarship one year in JuMichael Young. All the while you and Brady continue to complain about depth as if the "depth fairy" came and took players from him at night. He did those things to himself....not Santa.

    And I think the Collis Temple deal with his Final 4 team is a legit statement. You want to use the Final 4 appearance as a highmark on why people shouldn't complain about Brady, then how he got that gift-wrapped to him is something that needs to be brought up.

    Bottomline is this: LSU should get to the NCAA Tourney EVERY FREAKING YEAR. You got Gonzaga going more than LSU. That's OK with you? With the basketball talent in this state, there is no excuse in being 10 years without a FRIGGIN' point guard and then have the one responsible for that, Brady himself, complain about how he doesn't have a PG. What does the "PG Fairy" deliver them to every other team? No he's responsible for that and so he goes and signs a 4 foot white guy from Oregon to play PG in the SEC.

    That's the kind of crap that's inexcuseable and would get you run off from Ole Miss....not to mention LSU. Anyway, you shouldn't be able to keep your job if you are going to the NIT 3 years in a row, losing in the 1st round of that, going to the NCAA dance one year and then finish last in the SEC next year. That's termination time.
     
  9. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    just a few comments--

    jay wright should be fired. did you see all the empty seats?

    we should be pleasantly surprised by the performance of the team. would you have preferred them to play as expected and lose by 12?

    LSU screwed up in the end of the game in many ways---missed FTs, poor shot selection, fouls----but Nova did things right too. dont forget there was a quality oppt on the floor too. and fyi, LSU didnt get such a big lead just because Louisiana is such a great place, Nova players screwed up (missed FTs, missed open jumpers, little passing). they corrected that to a large degree and deserve credit for it.

    this LSU team will be fun to watch at times, but will go nowhere. coach K couldnt get it done with this team (or last years team). there is no way they get to over .500 in the SEC without bangers. the loss of tasmin and, more importantly, thornton sealed the fate of this team. you could not pick two other players to lose off the roster that would have a more damaging effect to the team. do that to any other team in the country and see what happens.
     
  10. 18handicap

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    The empty seats got Smoke fired, why can't we have this happen to Brady. We have done great things in basketball and should have a great program -- at least make the NCAA every year. Maybe Dale wasn't the best x and o coach either, but he could motivate a cock roach to play basketball. I don't see that in Brady -- never positive. I'm going to our game here in College Station again TAMU in January. I hope I have a reason to be proud.
     

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