Ann C. Calls democrats pu**ys

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    How do you stop people from having kids they shouldn't be having? Trust me, I wish there were a way to do this, but I can't think of one without completely trampling on people's rights.

    I don't know either, it is a tough issue, but I would leave WIC alone, and focus on unemployment benefits, and food stamps. I would make cuts to those social programs before WIC.
     
  2. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    To pay no taxes because of kids a couple would have to have AGI under 28,000. That is on the low end of middle class. An AGI of 28,000 translates to a household gross of 40,000 bucks. That aint exactly a high salary.

    Here are the CBO numbers for 2006: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/100xx/doc10068/effective_tax_rates_2006.pdf


    See page 4 of 5.
     
  3. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    About what I figured. However, I think you said at one point your effective tax rate was 4% or so on about 100k (correct that if I'm wrong). It seems a little low to me, relatively speaking of course.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Of course not. But this country has never let its indigents totally fend for themselves, no civilized country does. We don't need shantytowns and barrios emerging and a rising crime rate as these people are forceed to steal and beg.
     
  5. Rwilliams

    Rwilliams Veteran Member

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    The generational government support must be broken.
     
  6. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    I am a bit lower than the norm on the tax side because my wife is in nursing school, my kids are in daycare, and I max out HSA contributions. I also spen a substantial part of 10 paying into a state pension.
     
  7. Rwilliams

    Rwilliams Veteran Member

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    There are millions of people that are on the governments payroll for their living expenses. It's only a drop in the bucket compaired to total government spending. These people could be paying taxes if they worked. Many of these same people wind up in our jails. I don't undestand why they don't see the importance in learning a trade. The government subsidizing their rent and other living expenses doesn't do anything to make them get off their asses. You don't need a college degree to make a good living if you learn a trade and continue the learning process and get more certifications every chance you get. Forcing continued education and career training should be a part of any government assistance.
     
  8. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    I'm in a similar boat. But my point is all those things add up to a six figure guy paying 4%. Relative to what other people pay in other situations, I just think it's a little low.
     
  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    They'll steal anyway. It's what "they" do.

    But I'm not advocating abandoning the indigent. I'm making the point that the working poor shouldn't be penalized.
     
  10. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Like I said I'll gladly trade the deductions away when I don't have the expenses.
     

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