America has no REAL leaders anymore

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Some posts require no response, chief. It's an allegation right now. Let it go to trial and we'll see what happens. Of course you've made your usual partisan stretch to try to blame possible Maryland State Police misconduct on the President of the United States.
     
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    Winston1 Founding Member

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    Read the article sport. It specifically states that there was federal involvement from the first and that the Anne Arundal and Maryland police were fronts. Notice I didn't make it partisan chief...I specifically stated it is a path the feds are on that predated the present administration. You seem to not care about any issue unless you can make it a partisan argument.
     
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  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You make remarks about "libs" and think you're not being partisan. Give me a break. You hear "Coast Guard" and you immediately blame Obama! Guilt by association is an old partisan tactic.

    I read the allegations. Are you aware that not all allegations turn out to be true? This story needs to be developed with responses from the other side and perhaps some evidence before anybody can decide on anything.

    What I do know is that the police make all kinds of unwarranted searches and arrests and it did not start during the Obama administration, it started during the George Washington administration.

    Do you think it is funny that the story is only available on The Blaze, Twitchy, and The Daily Caller, three conservative scandal websites? Nothing on CNN or FOXNews yet. Perhaps because there is no story yet. Just an allegation.

    Audrey Hudson herself worked for the Washington Times, a conservative paper founded by the Korean Reverend Sun Myung Moon. The police raid was on her husband, a convicted felon who owned guns illegally.
     
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  4. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    Funny Red you take the cautionary points I made in my first post and turned them into a political statement on your part. I know you don't care about the facts of an argument so long as you can put your slant on a subject. I will say it one more time ...my statement wasn't against the President but the encroaching and mindless power grab the apolitical federal bureaucracy. Feel free to twist it as you want but you know as well as I do you're jousting windmills.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I'm good at this.

    When you can't attack the argument you just attack the person.

    You are a crawfishing windmill. You said "it seems the present administration has been much more aggressive and had less concern for the 1st amendment that previous." But now you imagine that you are somehow above partisan comment.
     
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    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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  7. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    You named people who currently hold leadership positions. I don't see any leaders, though.
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    So who has a "real" leader? China? Mexico? Germany? Saudi Arabia?

    Nada.
     
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  9. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    America set the standard for leadership. It has slowly eroded away. Everyone is afraid to stand up for what they believe and move to the right or left with a problem arises.

    There is no middle ground, not compromise only concern for self preservation.
     
    LSUpride123, Oct 27, 2013
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  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The best leaders are turned off by politics. They are running corporations and universities. National political leaders in this century must pledge fealty to a political party and then sell their souls to corporations and rich fat cats for campaign funds.
     
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