Direct funding to ACORN itself is not the big issue. On the housing front they act like a mortgage broker by consulting and helping assemble loan packages that are directed to either allied finance companies or government administered low income finance companies. There is no telling how much money that involved.
The lack of federal funding isn't an issue from what I read as most money is given priivately. The thing that could get them is the FBI investigation but it won't. Looks like ACORN will stick around.
$8.5 billion in stimulus money was earmarked for ACORN et. al. Down here we call that a "Flo Ton". (Ton as in Jean as in Jean LaFitte.)
I've been out and don't have time to read all posts but since I last visited this thread numerous additional allegations have surfaced against ACORN. As I stated before... *these are not isolated incidents *this is a political action group *this is a redistribution of wealth organization We need to... *end (not just suspend) all taxpayer funding *investigate any criminal activity *search for other groups with similar agendas and practices This is just another example of how votes are bought by providing federal funding through SOCIAL programs.
i wish you were joking. buying votes through social programs isnt all that different than buying them through tax cuts. i know youll say the difference is it your money they are taking away through taxes, but most vote with money in mind (except for 1. working poor whites that have been suckered in to voting GOP because of race and abortion and 2. high minded libs that vote for what they think is best for the country not themselves). just look at what happens every time a district wants to raise property taxes. stuff has to get paid for and the money has to come from somewhere, you just dont want it to come from you. only a small piece of the pie goes to social programs unless you consider SS and Medicare. investigate ACORN, shut them down and prosecute them if warranted, but are you really advocating stopping all social programs because they are "buying votes"? thats sure some convoluted logic.
I didn't suggest we stop ALL aid or social programs...just those under the guise of a legitimate organization designed to help people, when in fact they're nothing more than a political action group. We collectively pay taxes so we can benefit from roads, schools, parks, defense, etc. Most people would agree that's a good thing. Fortunately we're a wealthy, compassionate country so we can take care of our elderly, poor, and those with disabilities. Most people would agree that's also a good thing. The problem I have is taxing people to collect money for things we don't NEED to support things special interest groups WANT. I'm adamantly opposed to giving a dime to people who possess ability but contribute absolutely nothing. Giving money to these people/groups doesn't benefit America or help these people/groups take steps to become productive. It's simply an avenue to buy votes while keeping people in their current condition...un or under-educated, poor, dependent, misinformed, and in the back pocket of politicians. Regardless of party affiliation, I think most educated, "productive" citizens would agree we spend far too much money in this country. We don't need additional revenue, we need to stop spending. Cutting off money to groups like ACORN and wasteful programs like "Cash for Clunkers" would be a good start.
so if you are for taking care of the elderly, poor and disabled then what money are you claiming is being wasted? the $53 million to ACORN, bfd. the cash for clunkers? ok, maybe that was a bad idea, but it wasnt a social program. more an economic one. if you look go at the federal budget, then you would first start pointing fingers at your grandmother and wars. thats where the money goes. 21% on SS 13% on Medicare the next biggest is War 16% defense. and if you add homeland security (8.5), global war on terror (4.8) you are up to 29%. equalling $700 billion. and that doesnt include what is spent on two wars $130 billion. then you are against $360 billion for Unemployment/Welfare/Other Mandatory Spending (12). i dont know how this parses out but clearly it is not all Welfare and you supposedly would be ok with how a lot of that is spent. so lets say 2/3 is welfare= $240 billion and 1/2 is warranted. so you are so ticked off about $120 billion? sure its a lot of money but $260 billion (8.5) is for debt interest (all waste) and $830 billion is for war. now im not for giving money to people that dont need it or for giving it to capable people and im not for dismantling the DoD but it there sure are other places to cut spending than social programs. because i dont hear much vitriol over $260 billion a year on debt interest or $830 billion on war but tons of vitriol over $120 billion welfare waste then it makes me question your motivation. i dont think you care about the $. you care about politics and culture wars.
ACORN video dude O'Keefe just got busted trying to wire tap Landrieu's office. ACORN 'gotcha' man arrested in attempt to tamper with Mary Landrieu's office phones | Louisiana Politics & Government - - Louisiana Politics | State Legislature News - NOLA.com Lil to far, you think?
