A question with a lil different perspective?

Discussion in 'The Tiger's Den' started by LEGACY TIGER, Sep 25, 2009.

  1. LEGACY TIGER

    LEGACY TIGER Defy Yourself

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,189
    Likes Received:
    313
    If you have a team filled with mostly 1-2 star players vs a ream filled with mostly 3-4 star players, both teams have pretty good coaching staffs, what would you expect the point differential to be? 10-20-30-60 Considering the difference in talent is basically a step better here, a step better there, would do ya'll think?
     
  2. pharpe

    pharpe Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2002
    Messages:
    2,818
    Likes Received:
    328

    Well 1 star players usually don't even make FCS rosters so I would suspect that that team would be pretty bad. Obviously there would be many other factors involved in a single game situation but on average I would think that the point difference would be 50+
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    Too many variables.

    Home field . . . team intensity . . . weather . . . injuries . . . bad refs . . .
     
  4. MobileBengal

    MobileBengal Founding Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2002
    Messages:
    3,634
    Likes Received:
    884
    Averaging 3 stars per player will get you in the top 25, nationally. Averaging 2 stars per player will get you somewhere between 100-110, nationally. The discrepancy is enormous. With equal coaching, I'd think you would see 50+ point margin of victory as well, home field, weather, and refs be damned.
     
  5. pharpe

    pharpe Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2002
    Messages:
    2,818
    Likes Received:
    328
    Exactly my point. You could never predict the outcome, on a signal game, with just those facts given. Which is why I took the "on average" approach.

    If you played say 30 games, with the two fore mentioned teams, randomizing all other variables, then I think you would be looking at 50+ point differential.
     
  6. Goodlifetiger

    Goodlifetiger Founding Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    2,621
    Likes Received:
    152
    And the fact that the star system is not an absolute when predicting players abilities.:tigereye:
     
  7. TexasTigers

    TexasTigers Are You With Me ?

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    5,919
    Likes Received:
    476
    Jacob Hester - 2 Star
    Xavier Carter - 5 Star
    Harry Coleman - 3 Star
    Claude Wroten - 5 Star
    Ciron Black - 3 Star
    Ryan Perriloux - 5 Star
    Zhamal Thomas - 4 Star

    My point is dont put to much stock in "Star" ratings. Sure there the Julio Jones, and Keiland William's of the 5 star world, but if you look at the last 7 years many of our 3 star recruits became much better then our 4 and 5 stars.

    Josh Reed for example was a 2 star I think.
    Jacob Hester in my opinion was the best pure football player I have ever seen at LSU. Yes he wasnt the fastest or the strongest but as far as a pure football player he was greatness. And he was a 2 star...
     
  8. MobileBengal

    MobileBengal Founding Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2002
    Messages:
    3,634
    Likes Received:
    884
    That's all well and good when you are talking about a handful of exceptions, but take a look at the teams that average 1-2 star recruits, and those that average 3-4 star recruits. On those teams that rank in the 100-110 teams nationally in recruiting, Jacob Hester would be the most talented and gifted athlete on the team. You aren't going to beat anybody in the top 25, if that's the case. You would have to have an entire team, 85 players, worth of exceptions to bridge the gap.
     
  9. LEGACY TIGER

    LEGACY TIGER Defy Yourself

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,189
    Likes Received:
    313
    Ok, I should have figured the question was too vague. Take the variables and make them equal. I'm not talking any particular teams. I just want to know what you think talent to talent. What would you expect on average these two teams would do against each other.
     
  10. LSUtiger327

    LSUtiger327 Pow right in da kissa

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2004
    Messages:
    5,132
    Likes Received:
    688
    i know what you're trying to say and my answer would be 4 touchdowns or 30 points give or take if there were no variables.

    parity in college football is greater now than ever. not just at the bottom but there aren't many true dynasties like there used to be and there probably won't be for a long time. teams like florida, LSU, USC, texas, ohio st, etc are the closest things we have to that now. i kinda like it.

    but the days of teams going on winning streaks for multiple seasons and winning back to back to back championships are over despite what bama fans say
     

Share This Page