"A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 2010."

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

well, we did just get a new wr coach.

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

Don't sass me.:yelwink2:

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

You mean after the first half? Because he didn't throw one single on target pass in the first half. You can make all the excuses you want to for him, it doesn't change the fact that JJ is a poor QB at this point in his career. I'm pulling for him, I hope he sets the world on fire next season.

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

I think JJ looked 10x's better in the second half of the bowl game than in the first.

I would say about 99% of us all agree that JJ has much learning to do, but it is like most want to think JJ is incapable of learning the things he needs to learn.

I think JJ can, however all of that comes down to the coaching. JJ needs some major 1 on 1 and my hopes are that he gets it and Garret rides his Ass and makes him push harder..

 

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I don't mean pro-style in those terms and I totally understand what you're saying. Even in the face of complexity, pro-style offenses run what works until the defense figures out how to stop it. They have an identity. Even if it's not working, they have an identity. We're a mish-mash. We throw a bunch of **** against the wall and hope some sticks. It doesn't seem to fit our personnel. He ran similar offenses at BYU, Tech, and Oregon (before Oregon was the Oregon of today) albeit more spread heavy. None of those teams had a cupboard as full as what he has now. His offense is designed for the underdog. The guy who's not quite as fast or strong or big as the guy in front of him. This ain't that. If he's gonna be around, I hope collectively, they can find what works. I've almost convinced myself that he should just be allowed to run a true spread, but that alienates the style of running back we've recruited. Maybe that's a source of contention between him and Miles. Who knows? I just think Crowton is a mad scientist with the wrong mix of chemicals. Give him the right chemicals and he's explosive...in a good way. Give him the wrong ones, like he has now, and he blows up the friggin lab. LOL.

You seem to be a bright guy when it comes to football Red. I can't imagine you like the playcalling, despite the limitations of the personnel, do you?

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

I like JJ and hope he does well. I also understand we had problems with the OC, OL, RB, and dropped passes by the WRs.

Even so...I don't buy into the "he's young and needs experience" excuse. At the current rate of progression it appears he'll need 100+ games and be 25+ years old to be a succesful QB. He needs to improve quicker than that or we're in trouble.

Placing all the offense's woes on him is unfair. It's just as unfair to say all his problems should be blamed on others. They all need to improve. I think most areas CAN improve by next year. My only fear is that JJ may have already reached his potential. I really hope not but I do have concerns.

Play calling, better (healthier) running game, better blocking should all help. I just hope he can learn to read defenses, run the option, understand clock management, stop throwing at the receivers' feet, and develop an awareness while in the pocket. Can these things be remied in the offseason? If so, we're in great shape. If we have to develop these during next season, we're in trouble.

 

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So after having passes thrown to their ankles all first half, the receivers should have adjusted immediately and made every catch near them? Don't get me wrong I saw some drops that were on the receivers. But you have to give them a little break based on the poor accuracy JJ has exhibited during the season. It had to surprise them a little to get a somewhat catchable ball.

JJ makes some good passes, some bad passes, lots of mediocre passes but rarely makes a perfect pass. I tried to bring up JJ with a NFL scout who lives here in Dallas. (Works for NFL not Cowboys now). All he would do was to shake his head to my question on if JJ would ever 'get it'. He immediately moved the conversation on how Jamarcus was able to survive on pure athletic talent without ever really understanding football. And we hadn't even been talking about Jamarcus....

 

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Lafell had 87 yards on 5 catches and TT had 81 yards on 6 catches (and he'd have had more had he not dropped so many passes). Randle had one catch for 27 yards, but he also dropped a catch that would have given him a long TD reception.

Also, Penn State's veteran award-winning QB didn't do any better than JJ did (he hit 51.4%, JJ hit 54.2%... and they had 216 and 202 yards a piece).

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

Sadly, I agree. I've been taking grief all year from a friend who keeps telling me he does not have it. He'll show glimpses of being really poised and making great throws only to turn around and intentionally ground it. I'm still hanging on to the potential I see but would be much more comfortable having seen just a bit more consistency.

To those who hang it on the Oline, get off it, even execution of the option he still isn't getting- bad decisions/timing.

I don't miss all the pick sixes though.