"A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 2010."

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

LOL, this won't happen.

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

How many interceptions did JJ throw this year? Not many, but I think that was more of the coaches working to not have him turn into the head case that JL became.

But he's not a pocket passer; he always seems to do better on the run--let him do it.

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

JJ went 17-7 this year. That's not great, but it's not bad either. With a OL that blocked effectively, a sound running game, and Gary Crowton allowing for a rollout by the QB in his perfect playbook, JJ should continue to improve.

I don't care if he runs for yards every time, I just want him to get out of the pocket and throw more often:geaux:

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

First of all, I believe the biggest offensive problem is the lack of a running game. QB is my second concern.

But since the thread is about JJ.....

How long should we wait to see some improvement next year? Should JJ start two games? Three would be my max. If he is not any better, we gotta start working with a QB who has some upside.

JJ's best game was the Peach Bowl last year IMO. He is young and could improve. But we gotta see something better than what we did in Cap One. How in the world could we recruit a receiver who saw that game?

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

You are right, if we don't get a running game, expect the same results. Jordan Jefferson is not Joe Montana or Dan Marino. You can't put the entire offense on his shoulders and expect him to go out there and win games for you.

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

JJ's the starter, and even if we had someone better (In the eyes of the coaches) it would still take massive screw ups or injury for him to lose that position. Before he becomes identified as the primary problem (by coaches), every other position has to be doing an effective job.

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

I agree he isnt a true pocket passer at this point. When he doesnt over analyze things he isnt as bad as many make him out to be. My biggest complaint is that when Lee comes in the game the calls are for much deeper routes. Lee is obviously a shot QB because he was rode into the dirt last year. He was missing badly, but the calls were still goind downfield. JJ did much better than Lee did when goind down the field, yet the calls were all short passes. You cant go short when the D is expecting it since thats all you call or cant run the ball. Ultimately for better production LSU MUST run the ball better next year. It will exponentially help QB play since the D will have to respect the run.

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

I totally disagree with you. Maybe it is because I relate running a football team as similiar to running a business. If I have a marginal performer in an important position, I give them time to prove they can get better. I sure don't give them a free pass just because some of the other team members are weak. Every team member must be the best he or she can be. You seem to be describing a GM type philosophy!

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

JJ, or whoever is the QB, must learn to trust the pass catchers. A lot of JJ's sacks were coverage sacks and a result of him waiting on someone to get wide open. With the SEC talent level and general parity, that will rarely happen. More important than finding the open man is finding the touch he needs to put the ball where only his guy has a chance even when he's covered.

I, like many others, hate Crowton's playbook for this team. Crowton's playbook is designed for underdogs. Guys who need cute plays to get by because they are at a disadvantage with whoever they're lined up against. He needed to evolve his playbook into something that fits pro-style, I'm better than the guy defending me type plays. He doesn't have to totally abandon cute, because that's what made him. His offenses at BYU, Tech, and Oregon were predicated on precision, timing, and outsmarting the better talent on defense. Somewhere in that "genius" of a brain, he's got to account for the fact that week in and week out, he will have the better talent. He relies on zone blocking schemes because he's used to his linemen being either undersized or not athletic enough. Another non-issue here. I saw a poster ask for big uglies on the offensive line. Mean, nasty SOB's who want to put the defenders cock in his pocket on every play. Well, we have em in abundance. But they're blocking cute instead of blocking strong. Get rid of the cute and we MIGHT be alright.

Aside from the tendency to take the foot off the pedal, Jimbeaux had the perfect offense for this type of talent. Still relying on timing and precision, but more on trusting the pass catcher's route running and knowledge of the playbook so the QB can put the ball where the pass catcher is supposed to be. It mixed in a good number of stride routes where GC runs more spot routes. If Toliver and RR are the top two receivers next year, both of those guys have game breaking ability. But it's easier to break in stride than it is from a spot.

I could be totally off base, but I am a believer in adapting to your talent, not forcing your talent to adapt to you. We have pro-level talent at almost every position. But instead of taking advantage of that, we're being gimmicky. Line up, hit somebody in the mouth, don't be afraid to get hit in the mouth, growl and spit, talk about their mothers, run the friggin football. The passing game will open up like a hooker's thighs.

Just a few years ago our linemen on both sides of the ball were violent. Even in defeat, the opponent knew he had been in a fight, and even though he won, his body felt like he lost. Bring the violence back. No cutesys wearing tight jeans and eye liner. Savages wearing face paint and stinking breath and still get all the women. No linemen dancing after the offense got a five yard gain but you made a pretty tackle. Line back up and drop them for a three yard loss. Third and 8.

 

Re: "A more experienced Jordan Jefferson at quarterback should enable the Tigers to be better in 201

Just going by what LSU (Miles, Saban, and even Dinardo) has done with that position and others over the last few years. Not saying that agree with it. I hope that a minicamp is designed for every position to find out who is the best every year, regardless of past results. That doesn't always happen, as has been the case with us.