A little respect for... Urban Meyer?

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  1. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Coach Urban Meyer tried to reassure Florida fans of his commitment to the Gators on Tuesday, but reiterated that Notre Dame might always be his “dream job.”

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-florida-meyer&prov=ap&type=lgns

    “Once my kids are done, maybe some day I’ll go coach there,” Meyer told WQAM. “I don’t know that. That’s way down the road. Being a father and being able to recruit the best athletes in America within a five-hour radius of my home, that’s why I came to Florida. I thought we could have a great chance at success.”
     
  2. HatcherTiger

    HatcherTiger Freedom Isn't Free

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    You listening Charlie ? ( Not the Vietcong or Charles Manson the other "Charlie")
     
  3. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    2010 Meyer will be head coach of Notre Dame.

    That's already in the works.
     
  4. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

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    He won't go for the same reason he turned the job down the first time. Notre Dame won't lower their academic standards for him to get the type of players he wants.
     
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    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Notre Dame is garnering top 5 classes every year since Weis has been there.

    What kind of players are you intimating he wants? "Blacker" players.

    I am not following.
     
  6. DRC

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    There were several other reasons including Notre Dame arrogantly low balling him on their original offer. When they came back to sweeten the pot Florida swept in with a MUCH better deal and Notre Dame was left crying in their shamrocks.
     
  7. fanatic

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    You follow. You're just being an ass. I'm not the one who turned down the job because the academic standards were too high, so you may want to ask the person that did. There were other factors too, like the one dcr40 mentioned, but everything I read and heard at the time was because of the original reason I posted. Are you telling me a sports junkie like yourself doesn't remember that?
     
  8. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Well then Meyer was sadly mistaken and totally stupid for thinking such a thing.

    Weis has been able to successfully recruit high profile players at virtually every position on the field. He simply can't coach them up.

    Meyer is an ass. But we already knew that.
     
  9. Blue TurboDog

    Blue TurboDog GeauxTigersGo

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    I have been saying that since 2 weeks ago. Notre Dame is going to suck it up for one more year since CUM is on a championship run this year. ND learned from Michigan's mistake last year. They are going to break the bank for him next year. Unless something crazy happens, I think you can book it that he will be at Notre Dame after next season.
     
  10. JohnLSU

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    In the "urban myth to leave swamp for the domers?" thread,

    Tirk posted this article:

    Notre Dame, Meyer seem like perfect fit
    Peter Kerasotis
    Floridatoday.com

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    Why do I think Urban Meyer would go to Notre Dame?

    First, let me interject to say that just because I think Notre Dame is in Meyer's future doesn't mean I want it to be. It'd be great to see him spend the next 20 years of his coaching life at UF. I just don't think he will.

    ...

    A common contention in my e-mail in-box is that in 2004, Meyer turned down Notre Dame in favor of becoming Florida's coach. Why, then, would he leave a school he once chose over Notre Dame to go to Notre Dame?

    Why?

    Because things change.

    After winning the 1996 National Championship, Spurrier went to bed prepared to wake up the next morning and take the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' job. He didn't. But five years later, he did jump to the NFL. Things change.

    In his authorized biography "Urban's Way," written with former FLORIDA TODAY sports editor Buddy Martin, Meyer refers to his Big Three coaching jobs, the only three his wife Shelley has no veto power to block him from taking a job at. They are Notre Dame, Ohio State and Michigan.

    Of those three, Meyer's self-proclaimed "dream job" -- his quote, not mine -- is Notre Dame, where he was once an assistant under Lou Holtz, spending five years with the Golden Domers. Meyer also spent the first two years of his coaching career as a graduate assistant at Ohio State, where he earned his master's degree. He is an Ohio boy who grew up revering Woody Hayes.

    So why didn't Meyer take the Fighting Irish job in 2004? Because the timing wasn't right. His authorized biography explains, "Florida's biggest advantage would turn out to be Urban's and Shelley's desire for a strong family life, because he could recruit closer to home."

    At Notre Dame, you recruit nationally, which means flying around the country, away from home a lot more. At a state school like Florida, you can recruit a kid, or several kids, during the day, and still be home for dinner, or at one of your kid's practices, that night. With a young family, that mattered a lot. But even with that in play, turning down Notre Dame was very difficult, as Meyer notes in this passage in his biography:

    "I wanted to go to Notre Dame," Meyer admitted, "but my family wanted to talk about going to Florida."

    Shelley knew how tough the decision was for her husband because "he left his heart at Notre Dame when we left there last time -- he really, really, really loved Notre Dame."

    That's "really" loved three times, if you're scoring at home.

    So, again, the main reason Meyer chose Florida over Notre Dame in 2004 was because he had a young family.

    Memo to Gator fans: The family isn't that young anymore.

    Oldest daughter Nicole is 18, getting ready to leave the nest and head to Georgia Tech on a volleyball scholarship. Next oldest is Gigi, 15, a high school sophomore. Then there's Nathan, who turns 10 Monday. Soon, he'll only have one child at home, which makes it much easier for him to balance his professional and personal life -- i.e. the rigors of coaching the Fighting Irish.

    All of this is relevant, of course, because Charlie Weis continues to struggle at Notre Dame. You just know that if Notre Dame could trade Weis for Meyer, they'd do it in a heartbeat.

    If you're the Fighting Irish, you must have a short list of candidates in mind if you do make a coaching change. And if you're the Fighting Irish, Urban Meyer absolutely has to top that list.

    In my opinion, Meyer is one of the country's three best college coaches, along with Southern Cal's Pete Carroll and Alabama's Nick Saban.

    For Notre Dame's purposes, Meyer is the guy who repeatedly, and even in his current biography, calls coaching your football program his "dream job." He's also, and this is no small consideration, devoutly Catholic, even named after a pope.

    For Notre Dame's purposes, Meyer runs a clean program, wins, works like a maniac, is passionate about recruiting, and cares deeply about what kind of men he produces off the football field.

    In short, he is everything Notre Dame would want.

    He is -- dare I say it? -- Notre Dame's dream coach.

    Better yet, your dream coach calls your school his dream job. How often does that happen?

    And people wonder why I think a marriage is inevitable?

    For what it's worth, I discussed the topic yesterday with Buddy Martin, author of "Urban's Way." Buddy's gotten closer to Meyer than any journalist I know, and he reiterated to me that "Notre Dame is Urban's first love."

    Will it be his last love?

    Martin said he doesn't see Meyer coaching the Gators beyond the length of his current contract, which has five years remaining.

    Me?

    I don't see him lasting that long.

    Again, just an opinion.


    http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20081120/COLUMNISTS0306/811200343/1065/SPORTS
     

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