A genuine question for the unwavering Miles/Crowton supporters

Agreed!

 

LSU owned the Aggies in the 60's,70's,and 80's.Your memory seems to only go back to the early 90's when the Aggies were violating NCAA rules so blatantly that they came within a hair of receiving the death penalty.

 

Fine by me. Call me whatever you want, I won't lose any sleep over it. I used the term just as a matter of convenience referring to one of the two camps and didn't intend to "defame" anybody, but since you're apparently so sensitive about it I'll just have my spokesperson type my opinions from now on so as not to offend anyone.

 

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National Champions
From 1970 to before Saban we won a NC 0 times in 30 years.
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SEC Champions

1988 (split)
1986
1970

From 1970 to before Saban we won the SEC 3 times in 30 years.
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1970 07
1971 11
1972 11
1973 13
1974 --
1975 --
1976 --
1977 --
1978 --
1979 --
1980 --
1981 --
1982 11
1983 --
1984 15
1985 20
1986 10
1987 05
1988 19
1989 --
1990 --
1991 --
1992 --
1993 --
1994 --
1995 --
1996 12
1997 13
1998 --
1999 --

From 1970 to before Saban we were:
:TOP 05: 1 time in 30 years.
:TOP 10: 3 times in 30 years.
:TOP 15: 10 times in 30 years.
:TOP 25: 12 times in 30 years.
:UNRATED: 18 times in 30 years.

Therefore, we were elite 3% of the time (1st year under Archer I believe), damn strong 7% of the time, an also-ran 23% of the time, mediocre 7% of the time, and less than mediocre 60% of the time.

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LSU vs Texas A&M
1970-1979 3-3-0
1980-1989 3-1-0
1990-1999 1-5-0

Our record against the Aggies from 1970 to before Saban is 7-9. We had a good stretch in the 80s, but struggled in the 90s. I guess my memory goes back to the late 80s. I was 10 in 88. One of my first memories was getting spanked by the Canes in the cold and rain and getting soaked.

 

And at the current rate, ND, Michigan and Tennessee are going to drop below LSU.

 

for clarity, the same site, red, has lsu at #23 for the quarter century just before saban (which i think is the time frame john was talking about). i suppose #23 isnt mediocre, but perhaps if youre just talking about within the SEC it is. with Bama, UF, UT, UGA, Auburn and Arky all higher (i know Arky wasnt in the SEC for most of those years)

 

LSU is in its prime years right now, no doubt about it. Still in all LSU was one of the better programs outside of this new era. WHile LSU wasnt quite one of the elite programs(top 8) like its been this decade it was in the top 10 quite a few times and top 25. LSU had good decades in the 70s and 80s. The 90's were a lull which brings down the cumulative avg. Overall LSU is one of the better programs historically even without the Satan and Miles years.

 

Red55
I repeat...

I said before the dark ages of the early 90s we were an also-ran. This seems to back up my claim. I'm not saying that Nick Saban didn't help us realize our potential or that we aren't one of the best programs in the history of college football, what I'm saying is that we weren't too impressive in the 30 years before the dark ages which I believe lead to the dark ages. You got bent out of shape at that notion but give overall program standings to defend your bent shape.

Fixed it for you.