A genuine question for the unwavering Miles/Crowton supporters

It is true that Perrilloux would have been a junior and then senior these past two years. It isn't true that he caused us to start two green QBs in successive years. Our coaches mishandled the void left by Perrilloux - the first year of course you expect to struggle, but the second shouldn't have been this bad. Instead of working with both QBs we effectively chewed up Lee for a year and spit him out and started over with Jefferson.

It is also true that recruiting a player like Perrilloux was a gamble made by Miles that he lost out on. Miles holds some of the responsibility. We took no QB the year following picking up Perrilloux. That's also on Miles.
Miles isn't the doe eyed victim you make him out to be. He made the right choice getting rid of Perrilloux (if the choice to keep him was available, which I'm not sure it was) but the wrong choice in recruiting him in the first place - bottom line.

I don't think anyone thinks firing a coach is the solution to EVERY problem. You're acting like Miles is only starting to have issues. He's had issues since he got here that most were willing to overlook due to winning games. A lot of people have started to take notice that maybe Miles isn't a great fit here.

You use the fact that we've had serious talent issues at the QB and OL positions to defend Miles? Miles recruited these players, the were chosen to be key cogs in his system. They flaked out, bad on them, but also (and moreso) bad on Miles.

You were around before the dark ages of the early 90s. Don't you remember being an also ran? I can feel us slipping back to that. Does that not concern you?

How long until lasting damage is done to our program? At the end of 2011 if we have two more years of these past two years we'll be 4 years removed from national prominance. By that time I expect LSU won't be as attractive as it had been to prospective coaches. We'll be at the worst position in what, 10-15 years, in regards to hiring a great coach.

 

I don't think the RP experiment was necessarily a bad gamble by Miles, and of course hindsight is 20/20. Sometimes a coach is able to take a highly talented problem child and turn his attitude around, in which case we'd still be reaping the benefits. What I do find frustrating was how he put all our QB eggs in RP's basket. The second he ran his mouth about winning 4 Heisman's at LSU, I would've covered the back end of that bet with another QB recruit.

 

I'd be thinking I could take his position.

 

If I were in Miles shoes I can't say I wouldn't have done the same, but looking back we can say with certainty that Miles lost that gamble. Like you said, putting all our eggs in that basket was the big mistake.

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Recruiting, developing, and keeping talent that will populate the OL and QB is one of Les Miles' responsibilties. It is one of my many concerns about Miles, and I have talked about those concerns extensively in the past few months.

As far as being an also ran, we were never really in the NC conversation as far back as I can remember before Saban came here. I remember the dark ages, and before that I remember losing to Texas A&M more often than winning, I remember never being able to hang with the cornhuskers, I remember being little more than an also-ran. I remember justifying to myself back then, "we're the best x-loss team in the country".

And it seems to me the dark ages were a response to many years of being so-so in addition to a series of mediocre hires by a so-so administration.

 

l-i-l, I'm curious about what you mean by that. I never stayed on top of all his issues as much as other people.

 

Always funny to me that CLM's big wins supposedly came from Saban's recruits, but all recruiting problems (dismissals, players leaving, etc.) are completely Mile's fault...seems rather convenient for certain people's arguements.

 

What Perrilloux was guilty of may have required his dismissal; I always respected Miles for dismissing Perrilloux, but it may have been more a necessity than an act of character.

 

Put a clause in the contract that says a coach can be fired if he does not win 8 games in a season and yoiu will never get a top coach to come here.

 

Thanks Satan (Saban).......it is falling fast....what can we do to right the ship. Any ideas? Please any?