3rd and Chavis - a tale of two halfs

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  1. Ch0sn0ne

    Ch0sn0ne At the Track

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    I think you are the only person anywhere on the internet that thinks this. Locker is 1st round NFL talent. He has exactly all the tools the Big league loves. Size, arm, feet, and smart as hell.
     
  2. LSU-SIU

    LSU-SIU Founding Member

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    Yeah, that is why even the commentators were saying everyone did know if he could become a first rate pocket passer. They were trying to convert him into a pocket passer, it was an unknown.

    In another thread I said he was a great athlete, no, he was never known as a great passer, even among UW fans. He was known for being a great runner, you can watch film of him if you wish. His passing was very suspect to say the least.
     
  3. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Not sure where we are getting 1st round NFL draft pick from.

    Anybody have some evidence to back that up?
     
  4. Ch0sn0ne

    Ch0sn0ne At the Track

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    I don't think there is such thing as evidence of opinions.

    1st round talent and 1st round picks are two completely different things.

    ex. Matt Cassel had first round talent. but he couldn't even start in college.

    ex. Jamarcus had first round talent, but half the people here wish he would have never came to LSU.
     
  5. QBLuke

    QBLuke Hickey Da God

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    Just a quote from Sarkisian comparing him to Leinart and Palmer, which induced hours of groveling from Bob Davie. But it is conceivable, the guy does have prototypical size, a strong arm, and quick feet.
     
  6. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    This guy started as a "runner" as well... he got hurt and became a passer... Better stats than GoldenBoy Manning in 2003...
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  7. SeattleHusky

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    The key word here is *was*. Jake Locker was strictly a running quarterback running a wing-T coming out of high school. He has been an unbelievable runner the last couple of years, even with defenses completely stacking up against the only weapon we had. You only got a glimpse of his running abilities because Sarkisian is trying to get him to think pass first.

    At 6-3 230lbs, Locker runs a legit 4.39. He has been the fastest player on our team since he got here. He leaves fast linebackers and safeties in the dust. It's like they are standing still. I have never seen any college QB do that -- not Tebow, not even the triple-option QBs of the 80s and early 90s. If he was a running back, he'd be the best white running back in a long, long time. Again, you only got a glimpse last night.

    Attitude and leadership wise, you can't find anyone better. Even though the local team was terrible, he stayed loyal and never considered any other college. He's always been totally positive, a ray of hope shining through the huge negativity surrounding the Husky teams of the past few years. He's about the only person who always speaks positively of his former coach, Tyrone Willingham. He has carried his team as few players in college football ever have, with no complaints whatsoever. He has never regretted his choice of playing for UW.

    The best thing that ever happened to Jake Locker was Steve Sarkisian showing up and putting him into a pro-set offensive scheme and making him a pocket passer.

    A good argument can be made that Steve Sarkisian is now the best QB coach in football. A disciple of Norm Chow, Sarkisian is credited with turning Carson Palmer around his senior year. Sarkisian has almost a perfect record of developing NFL-ready quarterbacks: Carson Palmer (#1 in 2002), Matt Leinart (dropped to #10 in 2004), John David Booty (5th round in 2008) and Mark Sanchez (#5 in 2009). And now Jake Locker. I watched spring practices, player drills over the summer, and many of the fall practices and scrimmages. Sarkisian's quarterback training is superb.

    Last year, at least for four games, Locker could hit the short passes okay, but was not very good at the intermediate passes and completely hopeless on the long ones. It wasn't clear that a running QB who did not get the thousands of passing reps in his early years could ever become a great passer, but the improvement has been dramatic. He actually looked better in practices than in yesterday's game. I thought he would do better, but given the tremendous opposition and that this was his first time in anything close to that type of offensive scheme where he was expected to be almost a pure passer, it wasn't too bad. (Although Sarkisian wants him to concentrate on pocket passing, I hope he puts in more play-action with Locker rolling out into the open field where he can outrun most linebackers.)

    Jake Locker *was* a running quarterback, but because of Sarkisian, he is now a dual threat quarterback. Given Sarkisian's record of developing NFL-ready quarterbacks, Locker's prospects in the NFL draft, hopefully after two seasons, in 2011, are good.

    Can we compare Jake Locker to Tim Tebow? Locker has the talent and he has the perfect coach to develop his passing, but we have to respect Tebow's accomplishments on the big stage, and we haven't seen enough of Locker's passing. We cannot put Locker in the same class -- at least not yet.

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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I would have muttered "bullchit" about that last week. But last night about four times I saw Locker shift into overdrive. It actually reminded me of OJ at Southern Cal.
     
  9. northernvatiger

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    Too bad we didn't know this prior to the game...:yelwink2:

    Certainly gives more credence to the notion that UW was a difficult team to prepare for. We may have given up a lot of yards; however, we came away with a W. Seems to me our D made the stops when it had to, and the O, while somewhat vanilla, showed some flashes of what we will become accustomed to. JJ was better than adequate, and Toliver will have a breakout year.

    :geauxtige
     

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