2013 LSU Spring Game

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  1. Tiger_fan

    Tiger_fan Veteran Member

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    and you're blaming that on their offense?

    Manziel, 2012 -- Texas A&M had the #4 scoring offense, #3 total offense (defense that year: #26 scoring/#58 total)

    RGIII, 2011 -- Baylor had the #4 scoring offense, #2 total offense (defense that year: #113 scoring/#116 total)

    Newton, 2010 -- Auburn had the #7 scoring offense, #7 total offense (defense that year: #53 scoring/#60 total)

    Tebow, 2007 -- Florida had the #3 scoring offense, #14 total offense (defense that year: #46 scoring/#41 total)

    in the last 11 years, the BEAST-MODE ERA of the SEC, only 3 SEC teams have been able to average over 40 points per game on offense.... ALL THREE OF THEM WERE LED BY A RUNNING QUARTERBACK (Manziel, Newton, Tebow). before them, the last SEC team to average over 40 points per game on offense was when Spurrier's 2001 Fun N Gun team did it, back when the SEC was not on the level it's at now.

    so when Red says "Running quarterbacks just don't cut it in the SEC," that is about as dumb as a statement as you can make.

    but anyway, the whole conversation is retarded because nobody expects Jennings to run all over the SEC like Manziel, Newton, and Tebow

    like lsu99 said, Jennings' game is much more comparable to Charlie Ward (who had nine times the passing yards that he had rushing yards)... both are 6-2 tall, weigh in the 190-205 range, both are athletic, great scramblers, great at keeping the play alive so the receivers have more time to get open, and both of them are pass-first QBs who are always looking to throw first
     
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  2. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    That's like saying Peyton Manning wasn't good because he didn't win the Superbowl the year he won NFL MVP.
     
  3. LSUDad

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    For the upcoming year, I really think Mett is going to break out in a big way. Opening with a tough, high profile game in Dallas will get his focus to the level needed in fall practices. He had 2,609 yds passing last year in an offense that struggled often.

    I was going to make a bold prediction that he throws for 3,000 yds but that doesn't seem like that big of a stretch. Therefore, I'll up it to being +/- 100 yards from our all-time single season record (Rohan's 3,351 in 2001). I think Beckham will get 1,200 yds and that he and Landry will combine for 2,000. I love that we've had great defenses in recent memory but getting excited about finally (hopefully) having an explosive offense.
     
  5. LSUDad

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    I like this, we now have a good set of QB's on the roster along with a great OC. Next year a bunch of teams will still be looking for QB's, due to a shortage in this years draft class.
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Ok, 1. I never blamed their offense 2. I never said they weren't any good? Geez do you guys read or just like jumping to conclusions. All I said, was Cam was the only one out of those 3 that won the Heisman and a national championship the same season. Why did that happen? I'll tell you, 3 letters. L.........S........U

    We pretty much ended Florida's season with a home win, even though UGA was the team that put the nail in their coffin, and if A&M beats us last year, they are at least playing UGA for the SEC. They win and A&M is beating the snot out Notre Dame.


    I got off track but I never said their offense was to blame and I never said they weren't good. I was simply stating facts.
     
  7. LSUDad

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    Remember this, last year Mett was 8th in the SEC with passing yards. Shouldn't be too hard for him to move up with Cam running the show.
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    There is an even longer list of running quarterbacks who have not gotten it done. Especially at LSU. Tyler, Randall, Perrilloux, Jefferson . . .
     
  9. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    I bet there is an even longer list of drop-back passers that haven't gotten it done over the years. Just because all "running" QBs don't succeed doesn't mean that they can't; they most certainly can.

    Also, RP was not a "running" QB so much as he was a QB who could run. His passing ability was excellent. And that's a lot what Jennings looks like. I would also argue that RP did get it done in his brief stint at LSU. No RP in '07=no NC for LSU in '07.
     
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  10. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    I think definition of running QB is what is getting lost here. When I think of running QB I think Vick, RGIII, Tebow because they have a high ratio of carries compard to passing. In LSU 's case, I would definetly say that Perriloux wasn't a running QB but a QB that could run. Similar arguments could be made for Tyler, Randall, and Jefferson. Of those Jefferson had the most carries over his carrer (359). Tyler had 70 less than that and Randall was more than half of that. Perriloux only had like 50 carries but I am sure it would have been in the Tyler range had he had a full career.

    But the kicker is that Flynn who is not a running QB by your standard had more carries in his senior championship year than Randall, Tyler, Perrilloux ever had in a single season with 100. (Jefferson had 2 seasons with 112 and 123). Hell even Mauck had 80 rushes in his championship year which is more than some of the seasons of the guys listed above. So do you consider Flynn or Mauck rushing QBs? Those were our most successful seasons.

    I would say LSU has never really had a rushing QB. We have had duel threat guys who have rushed a quarter of their snaps.

    Given that Mettenberger had close to 50 rushes last year and we know he can't run, I would assume when comparing rushing attempts you can also subtract about that many attempts for any QB per season due to pressure and and leaving the pocket before gettin sacked.
     

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