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  1. Tiger_fan

    Tiger_fan Veteran Member

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    NCAA only allows football players to.practice like 15 hours a week. So Stud was a bona fide, full-time OL coach for 15 hours a week, and did his OC duties with Krag (the other OC and the rest of staff) the other 45-70 hours he worked. Don't all OCs and DCs coach a position too? Chavis is our LB coach and nobody complains about it, right? The NCAA only lets you have like 8 coaches and you have like 8 to 14 position groups without even including special teams. Is Frank Wilson not a good RB coach because he's our ace recruiter?
     
  2. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    Huge understatement.

    After reading that comment this specific thought crosses my mind.

    In the context of the transition from high school play to collegiate performance, is the offensive line position the hardest to accurately evaluate?

    A quick glance at our roster shows 15—all on scholarship. The WR position has more bodies and also has more walk-ons. Point being, with 15 scholarshipped linemen logic says it gives more room for error.
     
  3. TerryP

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    Let me add one thought.

    I'm not sure (in other words, I'll need convincing) that Texas is a good barometer to measure against.

    I say that based on how Mack recruits; specifically how he offers. You'll see a lot of kids with early commitments to Texas and it's largely based on performances up through their junior seasons. It leads me back to the question on evaluation. If they are getting committable offers that early how much true evaluation is taking place in Austin? After all, he's been recruiting from behind his desk for quite a few years now. (It's my opinion that lack of concentration is evidenced by their success over the last few years: poor considering the supposed talent pools they are drawing from.)

    I heard a comment a year or two ago that the rankings for Texas players were inconsistent at the least. The figure quoted was something along the lines of 50% of their highly touted prospects ended up being what most fans would call a bust. (I've not looked to see how accurate that statement was/is.)
     
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    I guess we disagree. If stacking the line makes the OL better, defenses wouldn't do it
     
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    That's how you make a defense pay for stacking the box. Something we could not execute enough to get the defenses out of stacking the box, because we were horribly unreliable in the passing game, for a multiude of reasons, sometimes Mett would miss open recievers, recievers dropping catchable balls, poor play calling (max protect, only 2 recievers running pass routes)
     
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    Defenses don't do it. Yes, on 100% of football plays you will see what will appear to you as the defense "stacking the box" as the defense always naturally lines up with everybody but the safeties (and sometimes the CBs) within close proximatity to the LOS. But that's normal. Stacking the box is when you bring your safeties up, and you'd be.putting yourself at a big disadvantage if you did that, unless you're in goalline defense
     
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    Let's say a team went full retard and "stacked the box" against us other than goalline. Yes, the pass might suck, the catch might suck, but you're always going to get the pass off fast with no safeties back helping the CBs (dream scenario for a QB), so there will be no sacks allowed by the OL which is great for the OL (regardless if the throw missed or the catch dropped)
     
  8. TerryP

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    If a team is in a 4-3 base set, and brings an extra guy in to put 8 guys in the first two units, it's called stacking the box. That player could be a corner as well as a safety.

    Your trusted source Wiki probably says the same thing. ;)

    It's normally the strong safety. But, it doesn't have to be a safety. Just as an example, a team can stack the box out of a cover two.
     
  9. TerryP

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    On the same subject, just a small diversion.

    The pistol formation, which was the formation Chris Ault came up with, is covered in one of Chris Brown's articles on Smart Football. I'd link it this morning but I'm getting a message that their server is under maintenance. If interested, make yourself a note to check back on his site later on...it's well worth the read.
     
  10. red55

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    I think it's the coaching. When we're recruiting 4-star linemen consistently, the talent is there.

    Look at how Chavis manages defensive linemen. He rotates 7 to 9 player at those four line positions in every game. Even mega-stars like Dorsey were given a blow from time to time and a reserve sent in. It gives the starters legs in the 4th quarter in close games and reduces the chances of injuries when games are already won. Moreover it gives youngsters playing time in their freshman and sophomore years and reduces their frustration at not being on the field. Dorsey didn't start until he was a junior and became an instant All-American. He could have gotten frustrated and transferred out after years on the bench, but instead he got quality time in the game and was patient until he got his chance.

    But on the O-line the five starters play the entire game most games. Even blow-out games against cupcake opponents. They don't come out unless they get hurt. Even when we had a guy like T-Bob as a senior reserve he had troble getting PT. In the lost championship game T-Bob played zero downs. Zero. Even though some starters were getting their asses handed to them.

    I don't think Stud manages his young linemen very well.
     
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