My first alarm is for 4:15 am and my backup is for 4:20 am. I have been at work for 30 minutes by 6:00am. It would be great to sleep late and not have to get up till 6:00 am. The hands get in at 6:00am so I get there at 5:30 to get the shop and office open. It's hard getting up that damn early but it pays the bills.