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Fred Davis picked by the Redskins. CB Tracy Porter of Indiana was to much of a reach. Hes definitely not better than LSU's two senior CBs who they could've got in the later rounds that played SEC ball not Big 10.

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Fred Davis picked by the Redskins. CB Tracy Porter of Indiana was to much of a reach. Hes definitely not better than LSU's two senior CBs who they could've got in the later rounds that played SEC ball not Big 10.
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Then why was he rated considerably higher by most draft experts and scouts? C'mon, dude, you gotta take off the glasses sometimes. We filled a need both at CB AND at Punt Returner.

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Porter is a true cover corner.

You know, someone we really need. And punt returner to boot, which is great.

Bush can just concentrate on being the best all around RB he can be.

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Porter ran a 4.29 40 at his Pro Day. All he really needs is to add some bulk, which I'm sure he will with the Saints.

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Then why was he rated considerably higher by most draft experts and scouts? C'mon, dude, you gotta take off the glasses sometimes. We filled a need both at CB AND at Punt Returner.
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Well we needed a shut down corner not another nickel back which thats what everyone on NFL Network said at most he is and at an 2nd round pick we could've got better value in getting Fred Davis. Also they had other players that were ranked higher than him that were positions of need for the Saints for example TE, S, OL and other CBs like a Charles Godfrey, Patrick Lee or Justin King so this had nothing to do with taking an LSU players. Plus I thought we picked up Skyler Green for help with the Saints return teams.

But that being said I know he has potential since he is an athlete he did play quarterback and wide receiver for Indiana
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Needs Analysis: The Saints finished a disappointing 30th in pass defense last year. They added Patriots backup Randall Gay in free agency, but still need to find a top-flight shutdown corner. Elsewhere on the defense, the Saints also have needs at LB and DL. The addition of Jonathan Vilma should strengthen a pedestrian LB unit, but they could still use another playmaker. Charles Grant's offseason ankle surgery is a concern and the Saints would be well served to grab another DE. Offensively, the team would like to develop a young TE to go along with re-signed veterans Billy Miller and Eric Johnson.
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I forgot about Martellus Bennett hopefully he'll be there in the third round at 6'6 he would be a great target for Brees.

here is Porter's analysis via NFL.com:

Analysis
Positives: Has good arm length, a bit high-cut, but has large, natural hands to make the interception...His speed is his best asset, evident when returning interceptions or kicks or getting downfield to cover on the punt team...Runs with a smooth stride and has exceptional quickness and burst...Possesses good change-of-direction agility and body control, as well as quick feet to redirect (does struggle to come out of breaks cleanly, though)...Competes hard as a gunner on punt and punt-return teams...Does a fairly good job in tight man coverage, giving his opponents little stabs and showing good athletic ability...Needs to react to the plays with better urgency, but takes good angles to close...Adequate reading routes, but can be disruptive with his hands on the press and is better when he mirrors the receiver throughout the route rather than when playing off the man...Shuffles his feet most of the time in his backpedal, but does build to top speed well as the route extends, showing decent hip sink and balance...Better to see plays develop when in a Cover-2 or "quarters" coverage...Has the speed to catch up and close the cushion with the ball in flight and shows good ball skills and hands to reach and extend for the ball away from his frame...Needs to develop cleaner feet to stick in his breaks, but shows good hand usage in attempts to reroute his opponent...Has the rare speed to run with his opponent on deep patterns and, if given room, he can slip and avoid blocks with his quickness...Has exceptional leaping ability to compete for jump balls (will get knocked around a bit) and catch the pass at its highest point...Able to extend and make plays on the ball over his head and has good vision running with the pigskin, knowing when to get "skinny" in order to slip through tight creases...Does good things with the ball in his hands as a return specialist, showing run instincts and flashing elusiveness, with good production...As a gunner, he eludes blockers one-on-one and gets downfield quickly, showing good competitiveness.

Negatives: Has a slender build with a thin chest and smooth legs, but if he adds more bulk, it will impact his overall quickness...Has shown better courage playing vs. the run, but his lack of strength will see him get rag-dolled by bigger blockers often...Has decent ability in press coverage, but gets lots of balls caught on him underneath, as he prefers to give up a big cushion...Durable athlete, but lacks toughness and it is rare to see him stick his hat into the action (prefers to make plays in the open than in closed quarters), but did show better tackling effort as a senior than he did earlier in his career...Has good hip snap, but needs to open them quicker to come out of his breaks cleanly...Has had problems academically and will need more than a few reps to retain plays...Has matured off the field, but does not handle tough coaching well...Slow to read and react to the ball and his low test score indicates he might have problems digesting a complicated playbook...Must play with better urgency when he sees the play develop (does not close in a hurry)...Best when he stays tight on the receiver's hip, as he lacks the recovery quickness to get back into the action when the receiver gets behind him (has great timed speed, but poor cutting ability negates his explosion)...Needs to be monitored in the training room and pushed in practice (not a self-starter)...Must work on improving his backpedal, as he doesn't stay in it long enough and uses a straddle-and-bail technique that allows speedier receivers to gain good separation...Tends to get up on his toes when backpedaling, causing him to struggle to turn cleanly...Just adequate playing in the zone, as he lacks urgency to handle switch-offs and waits for the play to come to him rather than initiate contact...Too inconsistent tracking the ball in flight and would much rather make a big play on the ball than attack a target...Even with his impressive leaping ability, his timing is off and he does not show good urgency to ride up over the receiver to compete for jump balls...Has natural hands, but struggles to locate the ball with his back to the quarterback...Made considerably more plays vs. the run as a senior than his first three years combined (in the past, he would not come up in run force, letting others make the play)...Generally takes a side or will swipe at the ankles when tackling, as he either lacks courage or knows he doesn't have the power to generate pop on contact and must also show better hand technique to wrap-up and secure...Gets engulfed by bigger blockers when playing near the line and has marginal strength, getting washed out often when asked to take on the lead blocker in run support...Never really embraced the fact that he is a football player until his senior year (just seemed to be going through the motions too often in the past)...Needs to play with better control, as he had a high amount of foolish penalties (nine) in 2007 that proved costly.

Compares To: RICARDO COLCLOUGH-Cleveland...Like Colclough, Porter's timed speed and natural hands are his best assets. Both have been productive returners and Porter shows good ability as a gunner on special teams. Neither is known for tackling ability, or a desire to make plays vs. the run. Porter is rail-thin, but additional weight would take away his best quality -- speed. He lacks consistency recognizing the play as it develops and will never be more than marginal in run support. Yes, he has great hands and a good eye to make the big play, but he's more of a sub package type of defensive back than one who can play all four downs.

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2002: Missed seven games during his high school junior year after suffering a right forearm fracture.

2004: Suffered a left clavicle fracture vs. Ohio State (10/23), missing the final four games vs. Minnesota (10/30), Illinois (11/06), Penn State (11/13) and Purdue (11/20).
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pjnchamps, Apr 26, 2008

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We don't have a third round pick.

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As of right now, I don't think the Saints have another pick until the 5th round.

Ch0sn0ne, Apr 26, 2008

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Oh my bad I forgot they dont go again till the fifth. Which they have two of

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The Porter pick doesn't bother me to much. He is a versatile player with 4.3 speed.

At this point I cannot think of a more "steal of the draft" than Chevis Jackson.

Whoever gets him will get a guy that maybe not on paper, but on the field is as good as they come.

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