18 Children Dead From Reports

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  1. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    Guns Used in Self-defense - The New American | Home
    www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/7589-guns-used...
    ... explored 5,000 armed citizen incidents and concluded that many thousands of ... “tens of thousands of crimes are prevented each year by ordinary citizens ...


    Every month the American Rifleman and American Hunter magazine publishes stories involving armed citizens stopping a crime from being committed also.
     
  2. martin

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    Again, the relevant fact is whether there are more positives than negatives. You can say hitler made the trains run in time if you like, but we are talking about the net result, which I have said repeatedly. Owning a gun makes your life less safe.

    Buy a gun. Most likely person shot is you or loved one.
     
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    http://arstechnica.com/science/2011/04/guns-in-the-home-lots-of-risk-ambiguity/

    "from a public health perspective, there's little doubt that a gun at home is generally a negative risk factor"

    The NRA is one of the worlds most powerful lobbies, and they will produce info that opposes this, at a rate that can't be matched.

    Again, I do not favor gun control any more than I favor banning cigarettes, another thing that is clearly dangerous.
     
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    A 1998 study of 626 shootings in three American cities showed that, for every time a gun in the home was used for self-defense, there were 11 attempted or completed suicides, four unintentional shootings and seven homicides or criminal assaults.

    http://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/29/health/math-and-myth-of-guns-and-safety/

    That means if you put enough guns where enough American children might get their hands on them, sooner or later the math of probability will produce tragedy. In a recent incident in Seattle, Wash., a three-year-old accidentally shot and killed himself with the handgun his father left in the car while gassing it up. A police officer’s son brought the officer’s handgun to school in a backpack; when he accidentally dropped the backpack the gun fired a bullet that struck and seriously injured a classmate. Add up hundreds of such tragedies each year and what do you get? This: Our rate of firearm deaths for children under the age of 15 is about three times higher than in any European country.

    This all means the second a gun is added to our home, our odds of being shot with it have increased. The second we allow more students to carry them on college campuses or employees to bring them to work in cars, the second we have made college campuses and those workplaces less safe. The more neighborhood watch members we have patrolling with guns on their hips the more deadly confrontations there will be with teenagers.
     
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    I used to own a motorcycle. It was dangerous as fuck and I loved it. Sometimes I would ride it drunk. It made my life far more fun and far, far more dangerous. If I want to be safe, I will not buy another motorcycle. Or a gun. I would oppose banning either.
     
  7. LSUMASTERMIND

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    still makes no sense at all, when and where did you become a psychic, to know the mindset of those in the military that vote republican.
    what about the ones that vote democratic, what would they do?
    do you think about these things before you post them
     
  8. tigerchick46

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    Why buy anything then? Cars, knives, cigarettes, booze, airplanes (some fly them into buildings!), bats, chains etc..........crazy talk to ban guns and even crazier talk to expect teachers to carry them and utilize them in a responsible fashion. Their job is to teach. Hell why not just ask cops to teach a little long division when making a traffic stop.

    Bottom line is people will kill people as long as people exist, we are sinners and all have short comings. This guy was obviously outside his mind crazy, no one with an ounce of sanity could do this to these children. Problem lies in how did this guy fall through the cracks and go unnoticed. None of these instruments jump off the ground and start killing people, it takes a person to be the operator....

    I'll take my chances with my own new .38 special to defend myself if the need arises. This country was founded on our freedoms which include bearing arms.....and these freedoms are eroding daily.
     
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    I am not arguing for gun control. You are welcome to buy a gun and that right should never be denied. But I would advise against it, if I cared more about your safety than your freedom. If a gun makes you happy, so be it. Lots of unsafe things are fun. All I am saying is that the gun does not add safety to your life.
     
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    Are you ever offline?
     

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