18 Children Dead From Reports

First you must understand Crime happens with or without a gun. Unless you understand that I cannot help you.

When you decide to post evidence of crimes started only because of gun ownership and provide the data for such, we can turn down that road to label all gun owners as "less safe".

 

Gun Free Zones need to be done away with as well. All Gun Free Zones do is create the pefect killing fields, where any sort of help usually several minutes away, which leaves many minutes for people to get killed. Ever notice MOST of these incidents occur where they have tight gun policies?

 

Martin your point isn't logic but raising a false flag. There aren't two million deaths of ALL causes in the US a year. You are making an economic or moral argument that holds no water and carries no weight.... sort of "If if were a skiff, we'd all go sailing" If you want to make such an argument get some facts that have meaning. You claim to base your arguments on logic yet this is devoid of any.

 

That arguement is for the dumb saps who go out and buy a gun for protection with no knowledge of how to use it. A gun in the hands of an experienced user, with lots of time honing his skill is safe.

 

the mother of that killer was an experienced user who regularly visited the range. a gun in your vicinity makes you less safe, even if you own it.

wrong. i am lazy, but if you push me i will support this argument with reams and reams of evidence. if you are scared of crime, and you buy a gun, the person most likely to be injured by that gun is you.

 

http://www.minnpost.com/second-opinion/2012/12/health-risk-having-gun-home

You can start here

 

Also most gun owners have a hero fantasy. It isn't gonna happen.

http://arstechnica.com/science/2011/04/guns-in-the-home-lots-of-risk-ambiguity/

 

And she was shot multiple times while she was in bed, by her luny bin son who had access to those weapons and ammo. Not in my house son. I own weapons, and only I have access to the ammo... anyone who enters my house unauthorized is the only person in danger here, not the other way around.

 

I think what you fails to understand is the extraordinarily small chance that an intruder even bothers you. Violence is usually between people that know each other. The burglar killing fantasy is rare to the point where it is statistically insignificant. The odds are the gun will end up hurting someone you care about instead of saving you.

 

Ahh got ya martin and BTW, if you are born black or Hispanic, you are inherently less safe than a white male.