13 Cover Ups and Counting

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  1. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    And so they have.

    "Jessa Duggar, now 22, was a child when her older brother allegedly acted inappropriately with her. The younger Duggar is one of five alleged victims, a group that also includes her sister Jill Duggar.

    Jessa Duggar calls her brother's actions "very wrong" in a portion of a new interview with Fox News' Megyn Kelly, though stops short of labeling him a child molester, pedophile or rapist, in an excerpt from US Weekly.

    "I do want to speak up in his defense against people who are calling him a child molester or a pedophile or a rapist, some people are saying," the alleged victim tells Kelly during their interview. "I'm like, 'That is so overboard and a lie really.' I mean people get mad at me for saying that, but I can say this because I was one of the victims"

    Now what?
     
  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    They are still brainwashed. The dude at the very least fondled 5 year olds when he was 14. In my opinion he is a sick fuck, and a child molester. I bet when Jessa or whatever her name is starts the ole baby production line like her mom, she won't leave her kid with Josh alone. She is either brainwashed or she is covering for him due to their crazy fundamentalist religion and forgiving.
     
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  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Touching the chest and crotches of prepubescent girls through their clothing may be sexual misconduct and is very wrong. But he doesn't need to be lumped in with pedophiles, child molesters, and rapists. Violence, enticement, and physical violation children by adults needs to be held to the strictest penalties. If we paint with too broad a brush by making minor sexual misconduct between juveniles into rape and pedophilia it will only make judges and juries more reluctant to throw the book at those convicted.
     
  4. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    if another 14 year old touched their girls, not named Duggard, what would the outcome be?
     
  5. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    And you know this, how? They are full-grown adults. It sounds to me like she is in full understanding of what happened and where she is on it at this point in her life.

    She is currently pregnant. There are lots of moms who wouldn't leave their child alone with any man, regardless of their past. Regardless, that has nothing to do with what she said. You wanted one to come forward....one did....you were only prepared to accept the comments if they matched your opinion.

    For you to assume that she is either brainwashed or consumed with fundamentalist ideals is very shortsighted. Forgiveness BTW, is more for the victim and nothing to do with the perpetrator. As long as a victim withholds forgiveness, they continue to give power to the person who committed the violation. Nothing wrong with forgiveness, it takes a lot of strength. More importantly, she hasn't forgotten and that's as it should be.
     
  6. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    Parents always act differently when their own children are involved. The Duggars are no different in that regard, except to say that the situation was eventually dealt with whereas in many families, this type of crime might end up permanently under the rug.

    As a side note, those sealed records that were made public not only put Josh in the public eye but also his victims. Privacy laws and sealed records are meant to protect the victims, too and here they are having to go through it all again but this time under public scrutiny and a ripping of their family. That is something quite different from a family not named Duggar.
     
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  7. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    I've also seen some celebrities, like Bette Midler, for instance, laughing about the Duggar story. I believe she called it, "Delicious irony." I can understand that celebrities are likely put off by the Duggars' anti-gay stance (among other things), but it's pretty unkind to be laughing about a "crime" that had victims, who are hurting all over again--this time, very publicly. Abuse of five young girls is "delicious irony"? Have a heart, Bette. Damn...
     
  8. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    Absolutely. Just like I guarantee that among the many Hollywood types publicly announcing loving support for Bruce Jenner, some are flat out lying, think he's batshit crazy, and are only interested in boosting their own phony image.
     
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  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    How many young girls and boys are inappropriately touched by female teenage babysitters? It's a very slippery slope, amigo. Not all juvenile sexual misconduct amounts to rape and pedophilia. Nobody wants to see that.
     
  10. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    this one certainly is probably like that, but hey, ill lift the rug, you sweep.
     
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