'08 opponent win percentage- fits with the PAC10 vs SEC debate...

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  1. luvdimtigers

    luvdimtigers Founding Member

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    Terry, if I'm wrong I apologize ahead of time, but I get the feeling that you're insinuating that Fisher (a SABAN holdover) had a better gameplan in 06 than Crowton?

    I say this because you have insinuated that Saban and his staff are superior in all aspects of college coaching in comparison to LSU's staff.


    I was much more satisfied with offensive game planning this year/
     
  2. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    I was more impressed with the game plan in '06 than I was in '07. I like a balanced approaced with any game. In '06 the yardage was the same, but it was equally divided. In '07, it was more slanted to the pass (almost a 1-3 ratio) but the result was the same.

    Before the game last year, I said I thought LSU would win, but it would be closer than most imagined. It came down to a fumble in the 4th quarter. I do believe that if the game would have been more balanced, in the LSU attack, that the 3 INT's wouldn't have happened.

    I think you are taking things said by other Bama fans and placing them at my feet.

    Now, I have voiced my opinion of Miles and said I had my doubt based on his time at OSU. I think he was reckless at OSU with his comments in public and his play calling. The difference now, is he's working with different athletes.

    I mean no offense, no disrespect to you or other LSU fans, but I still think he can be reckless. One can call it calculated risk, but at the same time, the term risk is still involved.

    I think we all can agree that there were several plays that could have gone either way last year. And, it would have made a difference in a BCS game (insert NC) or a Cotton Bowl appearance.

    It's football. It's a game that comes down to a half of a dozen plays.

    What can I say? I'm a fan of a more conservative approach.
     
  3. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    As you should have been. :wink:

    ‘06
    Rushing........165yds/game
    Passing.........261yds/game


    Bottom line:
    Total points scored....438 for an average of 33 per game

    ‘07

    Rushing.........214 yds/game
    Passing.........225 yds/game

    Bottom line:
    Total points scored....552 for an average of 42 per game


    Course, Crowton's offense did get off more plays considering the OT periods.
     
  4. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    Here's the thing...

    Scoring defensive leaders in the SEC...

    Numbers were better in '06 than '07

    Passing defense was better.
    Rushing defense was better.

    Your own numbers reflect it. Your '06 defense was better, numbers wise, than your '07 defense.

    It was either a better year offensively across the board in the SEC or a worse year defensively.
     
  5. khounba

    khounba Founding Member

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    I'm going to have to go with better offenses. Tebow + Mcfadden + Woodson + more spread offense overall. Look for the offense to get even better in 08' with Auburn joining the spread offense party.
     
  6. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    I was just trying to show that there was no Fisher Factor. Seem to remember his offense struggling at FSU this year and I know it's his first year but it was also Crowton's too.
     
  7. TigerBait3

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    Jimbo also had a backup QB that was so good he went pro. You cant f up an offense with that much talent.
     
  8. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    They sure ain't saying this about Crowton's offense. :thumb:


    Florida State searching for offensive answers:

    http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=792646
     
  9. FrankA

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    Of course, the point IS he was working with a somewhat better quality of athlete. That's what made taking the 'risks' worthwhile, and successful. One could successfuly argue that the success of these risky plays was a major reason why LSU was voted into the championship game and made the Tigers such an exciting team to watch.
    After all, the game is football. If the Tigers were 'conservative,' the Tigers may not have even reached the SEC Championship, much less the BCS game. Their statistics may have been better, except in the won/loss collumn and the ultimate result.
     
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  10. luvdimtigers

    luvdimtigers Founding Member

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    Well, like Terry said, he favors a conservative approach. Both have it's advantages and disadvantages.

    I can remember when Saban was here, a conservative aproach quite possibly cost us some games. 2002 Ole Miss game for one. We try to run out the clock to end the half by running 3 straight times, Ole Miss uses it's timeouts, we shank a punt, Ole Miss goes in and scores right before the half, Saban is almost booed out the stadium.

    The next week, the same team throws for over 500 yards at Bama.

    I remember LSU fans always wanting someone who plays aggressively, we have one who does, I hope we support him when it doesn't work, as it invaribly will.
     

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