With Blanco flailing at windmills here...

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  1. TigerEducated

    TigerEducated Founding Member

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    Expect something big to develop in the next couple of days...

    I have an inkling that the negativity that has been somewhat suppressed by both candidates is going to come bubbling and boiling over from the Democratic side.

    I don't say this because they're desperate.................well, then again, yes I do....

    Blanco has nowhere to go but further down now, and with the New Orleans Tribune and the other statewide African American Magazine endorsing Jindal, as well as SOUL and BOLD, as well as Nagin, she's got nothing left to use but mud and the muck.

    Look for Blanco to see this as her last political gasp, and for her to pull out all the negative stops (while vowing not to air negative spots) in a last ditch effort to bail out a campaign that's fallen into a death spiral.

    When you have to hold up Eddie Jordan and a Parish President from Jefferson that hasn't even taken office and call them "power packed" supporters, they begin less and less to look like backers, and more and more to look like straws that you're grasping at, Kathleen.

    She just needs to make the commitment to either go totally negative, or just admit that she's surrounded herself by buffoons who don't know whether to scratch their watch or wind their ass.

    Seriously...Who wants her in office?
     
  2. JD

    JD Founding Member

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    If Blanco had those endorsements, you would accuse her of vote buying.

    The notion that Jindal has conducted a positive campaign or a campaign of ideas is laughable. that's another reason I don't like him - it's another right wing tendency - TALK a big game ("I am an ideas man") but offer nothing. (sort of like family values and military service).

    I know Blanco offers nothing.

    I'm afraid Jindal offers worse than nothing
     
  3. TigerEducated

    TigerEducated Founding Member

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    JD, you are absolutely off your rocker...

    Are you going to tell me that his point by point plan presented MONTHS ago on his website is not a blueprint for change?

    Refusing to pass an oil processing tax? Ridding the state of the Urban and Rural Development Funds?

    You may not agree with his ideas, that's simple enough to see. But, to say that they are not ideas because you do not agree with them is ignorance, and you know it. The man is FULL of ideas, tenacity, and he is FRANK AND FORTHRIGHT.

    Blanco has nothing to offer, and makes up OUTRIGHT LIES.

    Would you rather have a man who you disagree with who will fight for change in this state?

    Or a woman who lies about someone KNOWINGLY AND OUTRIGHT?

    Give me a break. You are so blind it's unreal. The bad thing is, we all know that you're an intelligent person. You're very well spoken, and on educational issues, you're very bright, in my humble opinion.

    But to say that you'd vote for a LIAR before a man with whom your philosophy differs, even though this man offers you a change from the way of life this state and this state's downtrodden have experienced is totally ridiculous.

    I feel like John Stossel when I say this, JD....but, GIMME A BREAK!
     
  4. JD

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    "Are you going to tell me that his point by point plan presented MONTHS ago on his website is not a blueprint for change?"
    Yes, I will tell you that - I posted my commentary on that several times hereon - it's full of generalities and platitudes with few specifics. (Blanco's is more specific) For example, his plan to stop erosion "Come up with a new plan and get federal funding" (paraphrasing, but that's the essence) - is that an idea? But even moreso, a website is not a campaign - where are the ideas in his ads? His ads consist of "blanco said she wouldn't go negative, but she has" - come on, man, an "ideas man" would run ads that consist of "ideas" Aother ad says he isn't a politician - man, oh man, his entire adult life has been spent working for politicians or being a government contractor. But the point is - if he really were an ideas man HE WOULD BE TELLING THE VOTERS OF HIS SPECIFIC IDEAS AND ASKING FOR VOTES BASED ON THOSE MERITS OF THOSE IDEAS. But he's not - he's asking for votes based on the fact that he "has ideas" but not on the merits of his ideas or whether he will do anything about these ideas. Do you see what I am trying to say?

    Let's hear Blanco's outright lies - what are they? You called her a liar several times - let's hear them. (and please, don't say because she promised that she wouldn't go negative - they both promised and they both WENT NEGATIVE). And if I wanted to be picky about this, I'd say Jindal claiming he isn't a politician is, well, a .......

    "Would you rather have a man who you disagree with who will fight for change in this state?" I have absolutely no confidence that he will fight for change. I'm not sure I even disagree with him about a lot of economic and education stuff - I probably don't disagree. I have a prediction - when he's elected, and I think he will be - within 6 months he will push a major part of the agenda of the unchristian coalition - probably something along the lines of evangelical indoctrination in schools.

    Now, tell me why those endorsements weren't bought. I've asked for that in 3 posts and I am still waiting.
     
  5. TigerEducated

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    JD...You asked how she lied...

    She asked Bobby Jindal-on a statewide televised debate-about him attacking her, using his name, his voice, and his picture on advertisements from a "Repubilcan Truth Squad" and what was his connection to it. She said these ads were airing, and she wanted an end to it.

    Jindal professed ignorance, and challenged her to provide proof of her accusation.

    She has yet to do it, though her campaign said that the "Republican Truth Squad" that she said was airing ads was meant to "blanket cover" all of the groups going negative against her.

    When pressed again for the name of the group behind her "Republican Truth Squad" ad accusation, she fumbled, and then stated something about the Repubilcan Governor's Association.

    These are ads she said used Jindal's name, his face, and his voice, and attacked HER. The RGA's website has the two spots they've paid for archived on their site for ANYONE to see.

    Care to guess whether they mention Blanco AT ALL?

    In other words, she told an OUTRIGHT LIE IN PUBLIC ON STATEWIDE TELEVISION ABOUT BOBBY JINDAL TRYING TO DISPARAGE HIS IMAGE.

    She fell back on the pitiful excuse later that, "she had it from a trusted source" who has since been unable to produce the proof in any way shape or form.

    So, you're either faced with an OUTRIGHT LIAR, or someone who's a DAMN FOOL, tossing out allegations with NO factual basis and with NO verification or proof for her allegations.

    Either way, that right there hammered the final nail into her coffin for me...But I'm sure you have some excuse for her being either stupdendously stupid or a laughable liar.

    So, what is your excuse? Also, what is your response now that I've provided PROOF that this woman lied?

    I can't wait...
     
  6. JD

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    That's the lie you are crybabying about? I thought for sure you would be claiming she lied about something substantive on his record - about, perhaps, some of the harmful cuts (instead of just blubber) that the "health care miracle" inflicted on some people in La (like the disabled).

    So the big lie is that she claims Jindal knows what the far right attack groups are up to? And that she then doesn't show proper debating skill when he denies it? And you believe him that he doesn't?
    If it disparaged his image why doesn't he tell them to stop? Or does it really prove how ridiculously WEAK and owned Jindal is by his extremist handlers - that he can't even run his own bloody campaign.

    What you call a lie is really broken promise by Jindal not to go negative. He doesn't go negative - his benefactors do. Reminds me of Peggy Wilson's campaign for insurance commissioner - she promised not to take donations from insurance companies - and she didn't - she just took them from executives of insurance companies.
     
  7. Bengal B

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    Are you surprised that politicians lie? The Louisiana governors race is not about right wing vs left wing. If Blanco is elected its not like she will turn out to be a Ted Kennedy or a Nancy Pelosi. I'll vote for Jindal because he might turn out to be a very good governor and at worse a mediocre governor and Blanco at best would be a mediocre governor and at worse a very ineffective governor. Are both Jindal and Blanco controlled by the big money guys? Of course. Thats politics.
     
  8. LSUtigah

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    Jindal a good governor and at worse a mediocre governor? Are you kidding me? He's a career bureaucrat with zero political skills. He will be tossed into one of the most backstabbing state capital power struggles ever. Everyone will be jockeying to try to assume the power in the sate for the next election. The esteemed senate already came out at a press conference and proclaimed their independence. Earlier the leaders came out and said no way Bobby Jindal will get help or support at the capital. Of course, no one is paying attenton to these things and everyone is too mesmerized by false hope and slick TV commercials all over again. He has ZERO political clout. All of Jindal’s genius ideas aren’t worth a pile of beans if he can’t get his ideas passed at the capital. Try to imagine Jindal cutting back room deals with some hick good ole boy senator from a rural parish. They won't even be able to understand each other–literally.

    Jindal will be eaten alive by Louisiana politicians & good ole boys. The only thing Jindal pushes through will be Mike Foster backed.

    In other words, 4-8 more years of mediocrity.
     
  9. TigerEducated

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    Once again, another who ignores the totally blissful thought that we have the chance to elect a governor with an unfettered and unblemished record.

    The man has no battlescars because he hasn't been involved in politics. Bobby Jindal is the right man because he doesn't have clout, he doesn't know how to work with the Legislature, and because he doesn't have experience.

    Experience hasn't exactly served us well, and the same old sh!t, different day mentality isn't helping us either...

    JD-You are a coward. She lied about him and his campaign, and you KNOW IT. Whether you trivialize the lie, or marginalize it is not up to me. It's up to you. But, the bottom line is that she LIED on statewide debates to try to make it look like she was a victim and he was attacking her. This is directly opposite of his constant statements that he wanted to stay positive and wanted to stay away from attack ads...

    She wanted to paint him as a hypocrite, and a liar.

    Instead, she turned out to be the liar. One that allegedly smart individuals such as yourself are willing to look past in order to elect someone because they put a "D" behind their name just like you do.

    What's it feel like to sell yourself out for people you don't even agree with?
     
  10. LSUtigah

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    TE, I'll equate your thoughts of hoping for a utopian society to that of your youthfulness. While great in theory, it just ain't gonna work.

    In re: No battlescars. How can you have any when your contributions are nomadic like Jindal's. He doesn't stay in one place long enough to get any battlescars! Don't be so naive as to think that the clout of Foster won't come into play if Jindal is elected. And even if it doesn't, not knowing how to work with the legislature will lead to less accomplishments for the state than we had in the last 8 years.
     

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