That's a sobering read. Did you hear any of the bites from that forum BO and JM did at the church? They were each asked,"at what point should babies be accorded human rights?" McCain did not hesitate...saying "at the moment of conception, and my administration will be pro life." (a position I know will be unpopular with a large percentage of Americans, but you've got to admire his conviction.) Obama ducked and dodged for 20 seconds or so before saying something like, the correct answer to that question "is not in my pay grade." Dude, have a position, and then have the guts to state it, and stand behind it. Man walk on road. Walk left side of road, OK. Walk right side of road, OK. Walk middle of road, sooner or later, get crushed like grape. -Mr. Miyagi, "The Karate Kid"
I am not a big McCain supporter but I'll be nice and say ok, lets take Jesus out of it and here is what you have. This aint a pretty picture of Obama so those faint at heart should not read this thread. This is what we have left: "Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed." If people can have good conscience to vote for Obama that is up to them. Liberals and leftists have always argued at what point a fetus or baby is alive but there is no way to get around this issue. The baby is once out of the mothers womb, is a living, breathing person. What does it say about our society, that animals are now treated better than humans? Human rights anyone?
Where is your evidence that it is not true? Jill Stanek was a registered nurse, she was there and present and saw what happened. Keep in mind, I'm not as political as you because I don't know what website is political or which way most of the time. The problem with this country is that you can't get "good" news because both sides leave important things out because of their agenda. Why is it that people like yourself have to try and dis-credit the source? It's because you will lose this argument, you didn't lose with abortion but this is a terrible, terrible tragedy. Where is your compassion for what the nurse witnessed? Oh yeah, you probably didn't read the article. http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/ci...bama-aborted-babies-left-to-die/all-comments/ http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/ab...ecord-on-illinois-legislation-2007-02-15.html http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/barryblundin
Probably b/c worldnet is know for their innaccuracies.. Not to mention Abortion should be up to the states. And if you really want to read McCain stance on abortion then go here: http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/John_McCain_Abortion.htm
When is the last time a national level politician said something and you absolutely believed it? When is the last time a national level media CORPORATION reported something and you thought it was unbiased? Politicians say what will get them elected and news media spin stories based on what their general readership/viewership wants to hear. Want to know the truth - wait 20 years and read a book. And even then, you need to read two books, one from each viewpoint and make up your own mind. And people think the internet makes us all more informed. Bah.
I SAID I'm not a MCCAIN supporter but I'm sure McCain probably aint for the disposal of babies right after birth. What about after the abortion, if something goes wrong and the baby is alive. We AREN'T talking about whether abortion is legal or not we are talking about the consequences after the fact.