there is nothing in my post to indicate I don't give of my means as I am prospered. As far as "claiming" to be a Christian... sir I am Christian , nothing you print or say can change that. If I have erred, then I am only human, for all have sinned and fall short... If I gave everything I had it wouldn't be enough. Just because the system is flawed doesn't mean I do less than my part. For all you know I may be giving more than you could possibly add. As far as you stating " the fact is" and little exposure" you have no idea what the level of my exposure to the system is. You can surmise but it is not fact. Just like you have no idea that what I am saying is fact. you chose to believe what you want. Regardless of the obvious. Now it's not obvious what my level of participation is but it is obvious there are many people working the system. what people like you don't realize is I am on your side, I don't wish for the poor to be ignored, I just think there are better ways to administrate the system. but you'd rather fight for the right to argue and spread propaganda than see the obvious. typical liberal tactics. As far as attacking you, your posts are full of BS in my opinion. BTW no one is "bent out of shape or mad". I can't help it that i see them for what they are.. I'm not mad about it, it's just noticable. I'm not here to "win" any argument. I am simply pointing out what is obvious to most who care to admit it. The sources are not representative of a few, and since you won't take my word for it.. well go about your business. No one says you have to believe me. hell for all I know you may not believe there is water on planet earth. I have no idea the depths of your inability to grasp the obvious. The doesn't mean I am "mad" at you. Your problems in recognition of societies woes aren't my fault, there are many just like you. and by the way my "maw in law" as you call her doesn't bytch, she is a fine giving individual that sees the shortcomings of the system and realizes the funds wasted on those "working" the system ( and they are many) would be better spent on those that truly needed it. Apparently you didn't read my post. I have nothing personal agaisnt you, the reason I called you "son" was to my way of thinking you act and type like you are very young. sorry if this is not the case. BTW: your claim that I do not know what "poor" people face on a day to day basis is assine is a very broad assumption in itself. You have no idea. While I am fortunate myself, I can list at least ten families I have contact with on a weekly basis that are your definition of poor. I wont do that for obvious reason. Poor today is not poor like it was when my Dad was growing up as a share cropper in south La. the goverment sets the low level income that determines the poverty line. You need to come to the delta of Miss and i can show you some poor people. give it a rest. have a great day.
Red, we are basically in agreement, our numbers of who is working the system are different, that's all. We just disagree on the efficiency of the system is all. I have nothing official to back up any of this. It's just the general idea I get from people I know who are closer to the situation than I am. and yes i do witness alot of it in person. While this might not be as accurate as you would desire, I believe it is a good cross sectional representation of what is going on nationally. I agree with you about adminstrating and weeding out those that abuse the system. but that's just it, that isn't happening. the loopholes are many and the checks of the system are few. Generally, when a new criteria is passed it is a knee jerk reaction that hurts those that truly need help also. there is some middle ground here where the system can work for those disabled etc... that truly need help.
Agreed. Now show me where I stated differently. Did I ever deny that there were people taking advantage of the system? No. I denounced your overly broad characterization of recipients, and impied that it's not fair to punish those who actually need help based on the actions of a few. But, despite what you think, I am not so ignorant as to know that there is a very serious problem within the system. What a heaping pile of fly-covered bullsh!t. Your demonization of those not in congruence with your political molds is a sign of a weak mind. You should be above that, especially if you're going to accuse me of acting immature. Propoganda? Do you even know what that word means? If so, you're using it completely out of place. It does not mean the expressed opinion of someone who thinks differently than you. You should pay closer attention to what I post, and quit spouting off a litany of loosely related assumptions everytime something rubs you the wrong way.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head here. I was trying to reply about the reactions here if someone doesn't toe the generic ignorant redneck party line, but couldn't figure out how to say it. I think you got it right.
Propaganda....... a term I use to equate the misleading info dumped into the media by the Micheal Moore types in an attempt to sway public opinion to their warped agenda. You savvy that? I don't know any simplier way to explain it to you mr. argumentive. man you're not bothering me. I don't demonize or angelize or any other fancy two cent word you think I equate you with....... you might try using the word apathy, that would be closer...................You couldn't rub me the wrong way if you tried, I could care less what you think. I never said you had a weak mind.. YOU said that. You can have a very strong mind and be dead wrong, and that's exactly what you are. I was just pointing out the obvious to a less than enlightened soul. Your opinion in my world is like this.... mind over matter.......... I don't mind what you say because well you don't matter in the grand scheme of things. or at least in my world you don't. I am sure I am the same for you. Just trying to help you see things clearer, sorry I couldn't help you. And please just because you're worked up over this, don't assume I am, I think this crap is funny myself. :grin: when it's all said and done, it all remains the same so why not laugh about it? BTW have a really great day. :thumb: Oh yeah one more thing. if i posted from now on two posts a day, I'd be hard pressed to catch up to your fly covered bullsh!t posts. 1 fly covered Bs post for me 300 for Chaos
generic ignorant redneck party line? must be some new party in Tupelo or something we aren't aware of. I think the nail you spoke of was driven into an area of your frontal lobe. It's called an opinion, we all have a right to think someone else is wrong. The fellow you so aptly defend is one of the worst at mudslinging when his opinion isn't held in highest affirmation. Was my insult of your frontal lobe any worse than your insult?? it seems to me that if you open the can of worms you best be ready to fish with them, as a redneck would say. anotherwords don't come crying and belly aching in here that someone got personal or called you "SON" or responded to your hatred and demeaning manner with insults. if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the dahm porch. If you don't want insults, dont open that can of worms. this doesn't necessarily mean just you No limit... Chaos is a prime example. if the shoe fits wear it. ( gets out milk crate to stand on .. LOL ) the folks in here that scream the loudest about someone getting personal are the same ones that post with condscending attitudes and insults. You never hear me crying about an insult. You insult me, I insult back. live with it. go read some of Red's posts, he seems to be able to discuss something without that attitude. learn to disagree. or learn to take some lumps, one of the two. and by all means have a great day! :yelwink2:
Then you have removed all doubt of your inability to use that word properly, given your definition. By the way, propoganda is not limited to non-right wingers. That crucial point seems to escape you time and again. It's actually amusing that you did so and denied doing so in the same post. :dis: Yeah, that's really obvious by how much you respond to my opinions. Congratulations, you can read! What do we have for him, Rod? Just for the record, I didn't say that you said it. I did say it, unsolicited, and stand by it. Pretty strong assertion from one who claims to not care about what I say. What were you pointing out? That people abuse welfare? You are the 'less-enlightened soul' if you think that needs pointing out. Again, why do you care to 'enlighten' someone whose opinion you don't care about? Perhaps if you had actually divulged anything original, or that I hadn't heard before, you might be more fufilled in your endeavor. That's just the consequence of regergitating heresay.
Hatred? Hahahaha, seriously? My issue is seeing people so eager to attack another poster's comments, when they're not in line with the masses. Sure, Chaos is sometimes to blame at times when things escalate. But my impression is that people are just chomping at the bit to make sweeping generalizations to discredit one's opinion (e.g. the tubthumping about him being a liberal, Michael Moore-type.) Hence, the ignorant redneck party line. The sword cuts both ways. So Chaos has a different opinion. So does Red. So do I. So does just about everybody here. The discussions are no better served by saying "oh they're just liberals." The line between liberals and conservatives in our current political climate is so blurred, those generalizations don't really make much sense.
Hahahah. This thread has gone from being about Islam, to dems vs repubs, to welfare, to... whatever this is.
but I do CARE about you my son. i really do... honest......LOL I said you didn't matter, not that I didn't care. two different things.... YOU DO know the meaning of the word CARE don't you? it's the opposite of apethetic......... opps :redface: there's that word again. Well ok you got me there, i don't care..... I admit it. you happy? LOL I'm just glad we can all agree you have a weak mind. :shock: I would never have said that myself. I personally think there is some hope for you. You like fishing with those insult worms don't you? Also, no where did i say propaganda is limited to anything, I just used Micheal Moore types as an example, because I knew it would piss you off...... there are all types of propaganda. Hey man do me a big favor? have a really great enlightened day? peace... LOL :wink:
