Fair enough, GMAN. But that still does not make the poor in this country any more well-off compared to our domestic conditions.
Ok, kiddo, there is ONE person in this world who has the right to call me 'son', and it sure as hell ain't you. Second of all, I want you to clearly indicate what I posted that was 'BS'. I don't believe that I was the one trying to make factual claims about an entire group of people (that was you, remember?). All I did was call into question the basis of your claims, not exactly something that can be dismissed as bullsh!t. You get bent out of shape when you see me decimating or challenging your futile claims, so you resort to attacking my entries as a whole. That will never win you any arguments. You may not accept advice from me, but if you have future plans to engage in arguments, don't get mad when your opponet invokes substantiation. It's a pretty basic element of arguing. And if you're going to ignore it to simple illustrate a feeble point, be prepared to get destroyed.
That's great that you know whomever working in whatever agency in whatever state. All that means is that all you hear are the gripes and insufficiencies of such a system. There aint a damn system out there that aint riddled with shortcomings and imperfections. And I don't think I've ever denied that our welfare system is an exception. But you're trying to characterize everyone that recieve welfare based on the relatively few complaints you heard from certain relatives. You've never been in a position to really need help, thanks to your fortunate upbrining. So it's impossible for your short-sighted mind to fully assess exactly what an undesirable condition that is. For every person that you hear your maw-in-law bitching about, there are probably 10 or so people/families out there who don't take advantage of it. You're so quick to call me 'naive', yet you fail to comprehend the most basic concept that negatives always receieve the most focus. The fact remains, you've had very little exposure first-hand to what most poverty-stricken families go through on a day-to-day basis. Your insinuation that the majority of recipients chooses to live like that is asinine (which pretty much makes it consistent with most of your other claims).
You're always one of the people on here going on and on about what a great Christian you are. Now, I don't claim to be half as 'devout' as you, but I do know Christ always preached almsgiving for the poor. Just food for thought. I'm sure you'll find a way to dismiss this one just to fit your agenda while you strictly adhere to others to do the same.
Perhaps, if I had even so much as claimed to be a 'true' utilitarian (which I have NOT), I might adopt that philosophy. But even if i was, there isn't much evidence that shows that the war is benefitting anyone more than its hurting them.
Yes, in a perfect world, spreading 'freedom and democracy' would be a noble cause. However, and I'm getting tired of repeating this, attempting to do so in the past has resulted in tragic failure and perpetuated far more bad than good. So even if i WAS a 'true' utilitarian, based on historical evidence, trying to force our system of government on other countries would have proven to be the wrong course of action.
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