If raising taxes to pay down the debt was an issue, we would admit that, but you are just skewing things to support your warped views. There is no guarantee that an increase on taxes will go to paying down the debt. Even if you could show us a guarantee of this, which you can’t, there is still no reason for anyone with common sense to believe that it would go towards debt. I, like many others, believe it will go to the ever so bloated government social programs that do nothing but bring our nation down. Red, how many times are you going to cite Bush on this thread? Bush was at fault for many things, things that Obama said he’d fix…..There not fixed yet and in some cases, extend upon some of Bush’s plans…… Man up, Bush didn’t make Obama push a health-care bill we cannot afford. Bush didn’t make Obama increase the deficit. Bush did make Obama push a social agenda that the nation cannot afford. Bush didn’t make Obama KEEP THE BUSH TAX CUTS… We could go in circles, or YOU could acknowledge who’s in charge of the ship ATM. Up to you…
Paul Ryan is just another opportunist. Ron Paul is the only hope. And are you really bragging about the rate of employment, Red? It isn't much of a plus and your trajectory should almost be expected to be high when you're lifting off from such a low point. As far as blame, there is plenty to go around. And Obama's just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic as far as I can see.
And you don't? It can be made to happen the way we want it to. First of all a surplus must be posted. We have to bring in more than we spend in order to stop borrowing. Then the entire surplus goes to paying down the debt. We did just that as late as the Clinton administration. We produce this surplus by attacking the problem from both ends. We cut spending and we raise taxes. Parties cannot be inflexible and refuse to raise taxes nor refuse to make cuts. Parties cannot be partisan either and insist on tiny cuts to controversial pet projects. Social security, Medicare and defense cuts must be on the table along with increased taxes back to the sustainable Reagan -Clinton era rates. Once the debt has been reduced to a reasonable number, taxes can be scaled back to a sustainable level. Man, Bush collapsed the economy and saddled Obama with two wars. He started in a deep hole that we are out of in less than two years. Did you imagine that he could right the failures of the previous administration instantly? Pragmatic people know this the road forward is going to a slow and steady climb, not a leaping rebound. Slow and steady is a better formula than rash and unrealistic. Which plans were those? And why is it bad if Obama is doing it and good if Bush was? Bush pushed a Trillion-dollar health bill that we can't afford of his own (Medicare Prescription Drug Plan). But you try to put that projected deficit on Obama! Obama campaigned on a new health law, was elected and the law was enacted by the legislators that we elected to office. Of course he did. He left him with two wars that were hemorrhaging money, bank bailouts and a collapsed economy that required a stimulus that worked pulling the country out of recession within a year. Every industrial country on earth stimulated their economies in the same way. The GOP would have had to as well. What social agenda is that? The Bush Tax cuts were enacted as a temporary measure intended to stimulate the economy thorugh the trickle-down effect. That effort failed miserably and only enriched the wealthiest who trickled down very little. But that's fine, the cuts were set to expire in time. And they will. But the republicans now want to change the rules and make the temporary cuts permanent, despite the damage they have done to the economy. Not gonna happen.
And whose fault is that? Power must be taken! No one is going to give it to you. The failure of GenX to step up to the plate lies squarely with GenX. As the Boomers retire, power vacuums are becoming apparent for GenX to fill if they have the right stuff. Heaven help us if they don't belatedly step up because it will be a wasted generation. Fortunately the Echo Boomers are stepping up already and may fill your shoes.
All I hear from you read is BUSH, BUSH, BUSH and more BUSH..... By that logic, I guess Bush was forced to suffer the screw-ups from Clinton? And no, my views aren’t warped. I am very clear minded in that it is painfully obvious those elected have no real intention of cutting spending in a force that matters. With that, Obama is captain of the ship and it falls ON HIM to bring the nation together and he is FAILING… Three years is more than enough time to make just a little of something happen and under his watch, spending is INCREASING. Got an answer for that Batman? Again, you point on paying down the debt is good, but like I have said, there is no guarantee and until there is, it would be FOOLISH to raise taxes. Foolish.. Then again, we aren’t even touching on the subject that taxes even need to be raised. Wars? Really, who sent more troops? Who spent money on dropping bombs on Libya? Get real Red. Tax cuts don’t damage the economy, social programs that breed lazy ****s do. Warped bureaucrats that feel the need to stick their stick in the private sector does. Over spending hurts the economy. Negligence in the White house hurts the economy.
Give him some time. Look at the real numbers. Bullchit. No solution can be off the table. Guarantees can be agreed upon. What a commie mindset, komrad. Whose side are you on? Why do you hate America? Tax cuts don’t damage the economy, social programs that breed lazy ****s do. [/QUOTE]Take a deep breath and shot of whiskey. OK. Now try to imagine a world without food stamps, welfare, and public housing. Here are the numbers . . . Obama?s 2011 Budget Proposal: How It?s Spent - Interactive Graphic - NYTimes.com The cuts you suggest amount to a roundoff error.
Give him some time. Look at the real numbers. Bullchit. No solution can be off the table. Guarantees can be agreed upon. Give him some time. Look at the real numbers. What a commie mindset, Komrad. Whose side are you on, Achmed? Why do you hate America? :grin: Give him some time. Look at the real numbers. Take a deep breath and shot of whiskey. OK. Now try to imagine a world without food stamps, welfare, and public housing. Here are the numbers . . . Obama?s 2011 Budget Proposal: How It?s Spent - Interactive Graphic - NYTimes.com The cuts you suggest amount to a roundoff error.
