what is urban meyers methodolgy?

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  1. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    what is it that this guy did at utah that made him such an instant success? its seems unlikely that there were heaps of great recruits waiting for him. so what is it about his offense that makes it so spectacular? with the strong players already at florida, im led to believe that his system would be very effective there. but are the SEC defenses (LSU's, in particular) good enough to shut him down? sure, he'll be facing more talented opposition, but his players will be more talented as well.
     
  2. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    agree he will do well there in due time. yes, his offensive schemes are comparable to the fun-n-gun I suppose yet a lot of his success can be attributed to alex smith, his qb, who will be a good pro as well.

    Will be interesting dats fo sho.
     
  3. conradj

    conradj Founding Member

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    From what I have seen:

    Basically a spread offense. Shotgun four wide. But they do a lot of running out the shotgun. I enjoy watching it. I will say this; I am not convinced he will be as successful with that offense in the SEC as he was with Utah and Bowling Green.
     
  4. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    yeah it seems like all the speed in the SEC (again, particularly us, b/c we are the fastest team in the nation and everybody knows it) could keep that crap kind of honest. LSU's d-line is also made to torture drop-back QB's. ask jason white or eli about that. the only QB (besides green this year, but that doesnt count) that was able to produce against them was derek anderson from oregon st, and he never took anything deeper than a 2 or 3-step drop.
     
  5. LSUfan

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    I think it is because he uses a Spurrier like system in a conference that isn't prepared for it. To use that system and have success, you need speed. Speed is easier to recruit than talent, however when you have a good mix of both you have the kind of success Utah has had this year.

    I think the guy is good coach, going undefeated is not easy no matter what conference you are in . . . but I doubt he will have early success at FL. The speed and talent are there, but teams in the SEC are not afraid of FL anymore. It's still a big game, but I feel the power and talent in the SEC has shifted from the East to the West. Kids are not going to flock to FL just because Meyers was hired, he will have to prove himself like any other coach. It's easier than winning at Ole Miss or Vandy, but the pressure will be a lot tougher than he faced in Utah.

    It'll be interesting to see how it works with Meyers and FL.
     
  6. cadillacattack

    cadillacattack Illegitimi non carborundum est

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    Meyer runs a multiple-set that is a cross between Spurrier's old offense and the flex-option. In certain down-and-distance situations, it's not that unlike the version that Norm Chow ran at BYU. Qucik reads, looking for short mismatches on timing routes, an occasional Y set to keep the defense honest.

    Yes, it has been successful. And Meyer deserves credit for executing it in a consistent, but unpredictable manner. But the question remains on how well the offense will do against the faster, quicker, and more explosive defenses in the SEC. In Meyer's system, the quarterback is frequently exposed to the DE off the corner - and that, IMO, will be the downfall. I have a problem believing Meyer's QB can make it through an entire season against some NFL caliber speed-rushers that his system will be facing for the first time in the SEC.

    You can bet Spurrier has had plenty of time to adapt the Fun-n-Gun. Meyer too will adapt over time....... but that's the real kicker, isn't it? You can safely bet that time is the one thing he won't have in Gatorland.

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  7. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    10 years @ 2 mill. whats the details of this contract? who needs time. fire me please.

    good point about the QB staying healthy.

    and yes of course, its not a revelation someone won't have the same success in the SEC as they will the MAC or the Mountain West.

    heh gee, ya think? its also safe to sayI had better success at peewee leagues than in major league baseball.

    Kids flock to the University of FLORIDA regardless the coach and can always compete even if I was running the ship. it recruits itself. not as well as south beach but no other place is little havana either.
     
  8. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    I agree with Tirk on the talent, the Florida schools have so much talent to choose from they can come in 3rd in the state and still have a top 10 class. But Meyer will have to show me something before I annoint him with the great coach label, outrunning and passing over matched defenses is a lot different than going up against the defenses he will see in the SEC. But I also think that his offense doesn't just rely on speed and I don't think the speed of the defenses will be an issue as UF will have plenty of speed on offense, much more than Utah has all around.
     
  9. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    true but stop and think about it. what athletes did he have at Utah...compared to those he will get outta the Florida high schools. so it works both ways.
     
  10. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    That's actually what I was trying to say I guess. I don't think the speed of the defenses will be so much of an issue because the players on UF's offense will be very fast. I am just not sure his system will work quite as well in the SEC. Of course most SEC fans laughed when they heard Spurrier was going to run the same offense at UF as he had at Duke, most of em were crying a year later. So Meyer may just do the exact same thing he has done with BG and Utah.
     

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