Log in or Sign up

We have us a QB controversy fellas !

Discussion in 'The Tiger's Den' started by WestCoastTiger, Dec 31, 2005.

Page 5 of 15

JSracing Founding Member

Joined:

Nov 24, 2003

Messages:

5,069

Likes Received:

152

downtown said:

There's going to be some controversy if we start out next year with JR and our offense struggles like it did this year. I think JR does some really great things and some really bad things.

You don't go and play one of the best defenses in the nation and just pound them in every way possible when your offense has been lacking basically the whole year. Flynn brings things to the table that make LSU better. First, he's fast and when he decides to run, he doesn't hesitate. A couple of drives would have been over without his runs. Second, because of this it makes the play-action roll outs waaaaaayyyyyy more effective because teams start to fear the QB running. Third, he throws the ball away when all is looking bad! Fourth, he gets rid of the ball faster when the house-blitz is on avoiding 40-yard sacks. Fifth, his passes have a lighter touch which make them easier to handle. Sixth, he doesn't always take 10 years to get the play called. And finally, Jimbo seems to call a better game when he has a mobile QB because there's more options.

However, this is one game (although a huge one) and we'll have to see if he can do it consistently. It's hard to do over time. It isn't the first time he's come in and looked great. He came in against Cupcake St. and our offense immediately looked and scored more than it had when JR was in.

Either way, no way would I say this "JR will start until he leaves" kind of stuff. Although it might happen, our offense didn't have it this year. Yeah, we went 10-2 with JR which was great. But I think we could have done that with Flynn too given the chance. We need to get our receivers to catch JR's passes better too if he is the #1 guy next year.

I say just see how things go and play the QBs according to how they play in real games. It should push JR to work on his short passing game which I think needs work on as well as his decision making. That is the biggest thing Flynn has over JR and it was apparent even against Georgia.

Either way, we've got two potentially great QBs (actually 3). And no, RP won't transfer because he'd have to sit out a year before playing somewhere else.
Click to expand...

THANK YOU! :thumb:

amazing what someone with basic football knowledge can post, you're my hero.

JSracing, Dec 31, 2005

#41
homertiger Founding Member

Joined:

Jan 2, 2005

Messages:

399

Likes Received:

3

JSracingBBF said:

They call alot of those plays in the reg season, I sat through many. they didn't always work though, so they look different when they work. :dis:
Click to expand...

execution baby!:thumb:

homertiger, Dec 31, 2005

#42
JSracing Founding Member

Joined:

Nov 24, 2003

Messages:

5,069

Likes Received:

152

Ch0sn0ne said:

Dude, Flynn played great, no doubt! but if you think that was the same playcalling you are clueless about the game of football.

But then again by reading the other threads you are the only one that sees it that way.

Anyway, to each his own. I'm not really into fighting with other LSU fans right now, I'm celebrating!

:thumb:
Click to expand...

the plays look different when they work?

so tell me nostradomis of the gridiron, what was different about the running trap play addia was running? what was different about the Hester screen? what was different about the Bowe play action over the middle? what was different about the skylar end around or the same play as a fake? SAME PLAYS MORON just executed different. WHO THE F*** you been watching play this year???? :shock: :shock: :dis: :dis:

see the purple and gold team? that's us. In future comparisons of coaches try to use the same team, thank you. bye now. jesus where do we get these people? Brad, salty get me outta here.. before i get some wiper fluid out on this guy . LOL :hihi:

PS: if you want to say you think JR is better than MF that's fine, I can accept that, he has great talent and in many ways IS, but lay off the different play bullsh1t, thats just stupid... shakes head.

JSracing, Dec 31, 2005

#43
clair Rockets

Joined:

Dec 23, 2004

Messages:

10,627

Likes Received:

429

JSracingBBF said:

the plays look different when they work?

so tell me nostradomis of the gridiron, what was different about the running trap play addia was running? what was different about the Hester screen? what was different about the Bowe play action over the middle? what was different about the skylar end around or the same play as a fake? SAME PLAYS MORON just executed different. WHO THE F*** you been watching play this year???? :shock: :shock: :dis: :dis:

see the purple and gold team? that's us. In future comparisons of coaches try to use the same team, thank you. bye now. jesus where do we get these people? Brad, salty get me outta here.. before i get some wiper fluid out on this guy . LOL :hihi:
Click to expand...

:rofl::lol:

clair, Dec 31, 2005

#44
gumborue Throwin Ched

Joined:

Dec 17, 2003

Messages:

10,839

Likes Received:

577

"execution" as the difference is just too simple. play calling looks different and is more successful after the OL (and hardnosed RB) gets 5 yds on 1st down.

gumborue, Dec 31, 2005

#45
homertiger Founding Member

Joined:

Jan 2, 2005

Messages:

399

Likes Received:

3

JSracingBBF said:

the plays look different when they work?

so tell me nostradomis of the gridiron, what was different about the running trap play addia was running? what was different about the Hester screen? what was different about the Bowe play action over the middle? what was different about the skylar end around or the same play as a fake? SAME PLAYS MORON just executed different. WHO THE F*** you been watching play this year???? :shock: :shock: :dis: :dis:

see the purple and gold team? that's us. In future comparisons of coaches try to use the same team, thank you. bye now. jesus where do we get these people? Brad, salty get me outta here.. before i get some wiper fluid out on this guy . LOL :hihi:

PS: if you want to say you think JR is better than MF that's fine, I can accept that, he has great talent and in many ways IS, but lay off the different play bullsh1t, thats just stupid... shakes head.
Click to expand...

:rofl:

homertiger, Dec 31, 2005

#46
Ch0sn0ne At the Track

Joined:

Oct 25, 2002

Messages:

3,362

Likes Received:

178

You do know we won right? Why are you so pissed off?

Anyway to answer your question, There is a huge difference in same PLAYS and same PLAYCALLING.

Of course we didn't draw up totally new plays for the game. This game was called completely different. The biggest difference being in the mix and misdirection.

We also ran many more passing routes that allowed the receivers to run after the catch. Not our usual outs, curls, and comebacks out of double tight sets.

Ch0sn0ne, Dec 31, 2005

#47
JSracing Founding Member

Joined:

Nov 24, 2003

Messages:

5,069

Likes Received:

152

gumborue said:

"execution" as the difference is just too simple. play calling looks different and is more successful after the OL (and hardnosed RB) gets 5 yds on 1st down.
Click to expand...

yeah too simple i guess that's why it's overlooked so much and Miles and Saban preached it so much. the obvious cant be it right?

JSracing, Dec 31, 2005

#48
lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

Joined:

Sep 8, 2004

Messages:

17,958

Likes Received:

8,799

gumborue said:

"execution" as the difference is just too simple. play calling looks different and is more successful after the OL (and hardnosed RB) gets 5 yds on 1st down.
Click to expand...

Also helps to have a mobile quarterback. Makes the defense's job more difficult.

lsu-i-like, Dec 31, 2005

#49
lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

Joined:

Sep 8, 2004

Messages:

17,958

Likes Received:

8,799

Ch0sn0ne said:

We also ran many more passing routes that allowed the receivers to run after the catch.
Click to expand...

Matt Flynn's eyes.

Not our usual outs, curls, and comebacks out of double tight sets.
Click to expand...

JaMarcus Russell's eyes.

lsu-i-like, Dec 31, 2005

#50

(You must log in or sign up to reply here.)

Page 5 of 15

Share This Page