US to open 3.9m acres in Alaska for drilling

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  1. tigerintn

    tigerintn Founding Member

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    Agreed. My prediction is that the Dems are going to think that the shift of power in '06 was because people all of the sudden liked Democrats. I don't believe that was the case at all. I think it was Republican voters effectively firing the people they put into office. Call it a "market correction".
     
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  2. LSUAthletics

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    Yes, we need a broad approach. A strong emphasis on alternate energy along with more drilling at home in areas that are currently forbidden. Unfortunately, the democrats are against drilling in these areas along with expanding nuclear power. This should be a major issue for the republicans to use this fall.
     
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  3. Bengal Buddy

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    This is really good news. As a Republican I cannot put all the blame on the Demos. The gasoline problem is one of supply and demand. We have to attack the problem from both sides of the equation. While the Demos have fought a supply-side solution by opposing new drilling every step of the way, the Republicans have not done much on the demand-side of the equation. But we drill where ever we can, but as you indicated, we must also find new sources of energy. Nuclear power, wind, solar to run industry and provide electricity and energy-cell technology such as hydrogen-powered automobiles for a solution to the transportation problem.
     
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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    We have coal to last for centuries if we can stand the carbon footprint, so electrical power has a future. Wind, solar and hydro will contribute, too. The problem is going to be replacing gasoline and diesel in mobile applications.

    No real solution is sight short of a major revolution in battery storage capacity. I don't think ethanol and biodiesel have the capacity to replace oil.
     
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  5. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    Red I'll back you on the assertion that foreign and domestic oil cost the same; I did a little research today and found it to be true. But that's not the argument we hear from the anti-drilling crowd. No, their argument is,"it will take ten years to get the oil to market even if we start today, so why bother?" Then they offer us alternatives like solar and wind power, or cars fueled by biodiesel or hybrids, as if they're all just sitting out there waiting for us to turn the keys. Truth is, any "alternate energy source" is going to take even longer than 10 years to implement to the point that it can have an impact. For crying out loud, Barak Obama's only solution is a windfall profit tax on oil companies. Punishing big oil for getting rich on the product they provide will not help you and me. But at least drilling is a pro-active step that, if combined with a push for alternative energy, can help us down the line. As for today, did you notice that oil closed at just over $129? It's down about $15 this week, or since Bush lifted the executive ban on OCS drilling. Anyone else think the price drop is speculator reaction? And if so, what would happen if Congress were to get in line and lift their ban? An even bigger drop, perhaps?
     
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  6. TigerKid05

    TigerKid05 Say Whaa!?!?

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    bingo. also, it takes more energy to make the ethanol than the energy ethanol puts out.
     
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  7. Bengal Buddy

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    As much as I agree with Bush's lift of the ban on OCS drilling, that was not the reason prices have dropped recently. Recent reports from the Energy Department indicated that natural gas, oil and gasoline inventories rose dramatically recently. Traders viewed these reports as a sign that demand for gas was on the decline and that led to their decision to sell. Large investors are starting to pull their money out of oil futures and put it back into the stock market.
     
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  8. tigerintn

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    I don't either Red. In Glenn Beck's book, An Inconvenient Book, he points to a study that states that it takes a gallon and a half of gas to make one gallon of corn based ethanol.

    Someone needs to get busy working on the fuel device that Marty uses on the time maching in Back to the Future.
     
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  9. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    How many gallons of gas does it take to generate 1.21 jigawatts of power?:hihi:
     
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  10. tigerintn

    tigerintn Founding Member

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    What the hell is a jigawatt? :rofl:

    Couldn't resist.
     
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