Re: DC Watch: John Chavis That is much better. That is actually debate. Even so, it would appear that JJ did not get many snaps in practice while Hatch/Lee were healthy, and despite your problems with Lee, he still knew and knows the Offense better than JJ does. That limitation undoubtedly put Lee ahead in the minds of Miles/Crowton. I think it is inaccurate to portray Lee as total crap while touting JJ as an obvious upgrade. Neither QB went through the same things this year. However next year, if JJ beats Lee out for the start, then we will know which one combined their physical talents, mental skills, knowledge of the offense, ability to read defenses, and leadership. Right now, I would put JJ ahead of Lee, because I think his confidence is shattered and it has caused him to fall back on bad habits, like looking down receivers. JJ's limitations appear to be with knowledge of the playbook. So the coaches bet that Lee would retain his confidence and overcome his bad habit. Didn't work out, so you want to crucify them? I think they gambled, and they lost. This year's QB situation was a total crap shoot. I just don't see this game as total victory or total failure. Toliver's limitations have been well documented here, and I think there is quite a bit more to it than that. Well, I don't think the coaches are perfect. And yes they do and have made mistakes. I have acknowledged that repeatedly. However, I don't doubt that they know better than anyone and everyone on this site. I don't get to attend practice and I don't get paid millions to coach football. Does anyone on this forum?
Re: DC Watch: John Chavis I agree with most of this. Only part I disagree with is saying Lee fell back on bad habits. He never improved and retained his habits all season. I think coaching him didn't work because he was too scared to remember anything. Talk about crapping his pants... the poor guy looked like he was pinching one every time the camera was on him. Enlighten me. Of course not, but there have been some really bad decisions this season. I believe they dropped the ball, and Mallory and Peveto deserve their crucifixion (not literally).
Re: DC Watch: John Chavis Some on here make it seem like Toliver shouldn't even hold a scholarship. I would like to be enlightened as well, CP. We saw what he did the last 3 games of the season. But yet a poisonous Byrd was left to take most of the chances away from him.
Re: DC Watch: John Chavis Toliver didn't play much last year because he really didn't know what he was doing. His routes were also sloppy when he did line up correctly and he was not capable of running hot routes based on reading the defense. Byrd's attitude has increased as the season has worn on and he has been pulled often for it. Did they bench him completely? No, and I imagine the coaches thought they could control him and use his skills/knowledge over Toliver's skills/lack of knowledge. It has not worked out because Byrd either has not gotten open or Lee didn't find him. But Toliver still does not run many different routes, though he is growing and doing so quickly. Again, I think the coaches took a shot on Byrd, and in this case they missed. I don't think Byrd has killed us but he has failed to help. I believe Miles has the final say on everything, including personnel, but I am curious how much Crowton weighs in on this. Same goes on the defensive side. In the end, I trust that Miles sees all the breakdowns of this team(coaching and players), and is doing what he can to change it without the drama like in Auburn when they fired their OC in the middle of the season. Obviously, the team did not bounce back from that. I am willing to give him a chance to correct what is wrong with this team. That being said, I feel certain Miles has much more intimate knowledge of exactly what is wrong and how to fix it. Speculation by me, a fan, is just speculation. I don't disagree. This is big $ and an unforgiving industry. I am as ready for a change on defense as anyone.
Re: DC Watch: John Chavis I sure hope not too, but did his HS coach just say run deep every play. He has shown limited ability to understand the nuances of college football. Byrd has been a cancer all season. Then he acts like a diva and then can't answer the bell when his number is called. He had a lot of drops at critical times.
Re: DC Watch: John Chavis Typical overreaction. Do you only deal in extremes and absolutes? Toliver is a great talent and is developing into a great receiver. Is JJ a retard because he doesn't now all the nuances of QB? Or how about Tolliver from this year? Or how about any player who doesn't step on to campus ready to dominate the SEC, immediately? You think player development is a math equation? Does Crowton's offense really seem that vanilla that he should know everything better or as well as Byrd who started last year? It's not his speed, or his hands, or his height, it's his knowledge of the position and the offense. You really should try to watch his games from last year and it would be painfully obvious.
Re: DC Watch: John Chavis One sentence springs all of this? This is what I meant about you gettin' butt hurt. It's not that serious.
Re: DC Watch: John Chavis Either Toliver should start in front of Byrd or he is a retard? I gave several examples of why that way of thinking was flawed. I guess since I didn't use just one, I am now hurt. :rofl: And again, instead of taking issue with the facts, you take issue with me. :insane:
Re: DC Watch: John Chavis In your post, you say islstl is overreacting, while you overreact. :insane:
