This is what happens when LSU plays a disciplined team

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  1. WestCoastTiger

    WestCoastTiger Founding Member

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    We rely on pure athletic ability. NI is a defensive minded, well disciplined team. This won't be the last time we lose to an inferior opponent from a talent standpoint.

    Coaching.
     
  2. RedElephants

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    Coaching? Ummm...Not to blame entirely here. You guys are young...That has a lot to do with it. Young teams aren't going to come out and look like championship-quality teams right away.
     
  3. LSUDeek

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    Pure bullchit. We got open shots, just couldn't hit.

    Youth.
     
  4. TGer'nLHornLand

    TGer'nLHornLand Founding Member

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    Watched the game tonight on the Geaux Zone.

    This game worried me a little bit. I almost expected a loss tonight (but watch us win against Cincy on the road).

    I'm not sure that "discipline" is what's simply at stake. If you look closely at the stats, LSU's defense also kept N.I. in check and well below their averages, so this was a close game throughout between two decent, one loss teams. LSU's defense was pretty stout throughout, which is also a credit to our team's discipline on defense. The difference may have been free throws, and when LSU cannot go to the offensive boards, they have a problem scoring. The LSU offense is what needs work here, and I'm not sure it's necessarily "discipline" as much as it is the players (other than D.M. and Big Baby) are still finding their way this season. Tasmin, as good as he is for a freshman, is still finding his confidence. Temple either just plain is not a good long range shooter or he also has not got the confidence. Minor was playing just to "fit in" in his first game back.

    I agree with some other posters, and said this before the season started, this team's success will come down to the maturation of the backcourt, as someone will have to be able to score consistently from the outside, besides D.M. It was clear tonight that teams will consistently focus on shutting down Big Baby and D.Mitch and play well off of everyone else and dare them to shoot. D.Mitch resorted to shooting 25 footers dribbling the ball up in order to get off his three. Big Baby was double and triple teamed most of the time he touched the ball. Tasmin and Temple were launching threes, but neither could hit anything. Tyrus, as athletic as he is, is not going to hit 12+ footers with consistency.

    With Tack back, you could see he was out there to get a feel for the team, not turn the ball over. This loss gives the team more to work on, but more importantly focuses the attention on who has to step up as the 3rd, 4th and 5th men on this team.

    Key's over the next games prior to SEC play?

    1. Will Tasmin become more confident and consistent as the season wears on?

    2. What role will Tack emerge with? Will he play more smart to cut down the Tiger's turnovers? Will he be able to become the more under control floor leader, and allow Darrell Mitchell to play more shooting guard? Will he be able to improve his scoring output to take pressure off of Darrell?

    3. Who really emerges as the consistent bench players? Tyrus played a lot of minutes tonight--played well on defense and getting blocks--he seems to be asserting himself. Where was Lazare (see above)? Garrett gives the Tigers some perimeter defense, but needs a lot of help on offense. Ben Voogd sees time, but I wonder if he's falling into a X-man or Charlie Thompson role (Brady's doesn't turn the ball over, but doesn't really add much to the offense). Magnum Rolle sees minutes, but don't expect him to do much these season but spell Glen.

    I hate to say this, but is Tack going to be the catalyst starting after the cobwebs clear?
     
  5. scrappy

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    My thoughts exactly when watching this game tonite. UNI does not have the athletes that LSU does, but they do have the discipline to do so. Thats the beauty of basketball. A team that is far less talented can win b/c they play fundemental basketball. UNI backdoor cutted LSU to death. The blocked out and took charges. Here are another few observations from this game..

    1. I believe Tyrus is a stud, but for the love of God, block out and stop trying to block every shot. It's one thing to try to block shots in the post, but cmon, he charges at shooters on the perimeter and jumps 10 feet in the air and they blow right by him. Also, he's not that great of a defender. He's been getting burned but he makes up for it by pinning shots against the glass. He needs to pass a lil more as well.

    2. Im not a big Tack Minor fan, but late in the game, he gives you a better chance for points then garrett temple. I dont understand how late in the game you have your best shooter running the point. Mitchell is unhuman this year. Why not put Tack or Voogd in to run the point and have him spotting up? Please take out Garrett Temple. I understand his dad and his brother are big stuff at LSU, but there is not reason for him to be in the ball game with under 5 minutes to go. Brady showed his fear of the Temples even more tonite by playing him the last 5 or so minutes with 4 fouls. Voogd did not see the floor in the second half.

    3. It didnt take long for Tack to be Tack again. But, he will be the guy they need to win ballgames.

    4. Big Baby is a monster but missed a lot of gimmies today.

    5. 3-10 from the free throw line..enough said there
     
  6. clair

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    darn near everything else I disagreed with, but this...

    that is the tell-all...

    I assume we feel on this forum that Brady told the guys to miss these?

    And yes... Tack needs to play 30 mins a game from now on, b/c Temple and Voogd are a 4-5 handicap on offense
     
  7. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    It's just like penalties in football. When the same, correctable problems plague a team over and over and over, then it appears that the coach is not doing anything, or the right things, about it. Poor free-throw shooting and a lack of discipline have been a hallmark of Brady teams for as long as I can remember.
     
  8. LSUDeek

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    I refuse to believe FT shooting isn't emphasized in practice.

    Did anyone notice that Darrell missed two after hurting his shooting hand? Did anyone notice how he was grimacing and shaking it up there at the line?

    Think that might have affected his shots any?
     
  9. friday

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    I think it was more than missing free throws which attributed to this loss. the fact that LSU only attempted 10 is more concerning than the number of makes. granted, I realize that some of these are front ends of 1 and 1's. however, LSU's poise down the stretch was lacking and that's why they lost theis game. what is garett temple doing in the game on a crucial late possession? sometimes, brady has me scratching my head.
     
  10. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Certainly a reasonable assumption. But, just like there are football teams that consistently commit fewer penalties than others, there are basketball teams that consistently make more free-throws than others. Neither is purely talent-based and both can be corrected with practice.
     

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