The Pickens' Plan

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  1. Krypto

    Krypto Huh?

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    This is T. Boone Pickens' plan for America's energy restructuring. I am fairly interested to see if this plan will be filled out and if people will try to adopt to some of his ideas.

    http://www.pickensplan.com/
     
  2. tigerintn

    tigerintn Founding Member

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    I love this plan.

    This mirrors our other thread about the 3.9 million acres in Alaska. The more we can do to get off foreign oil, the better.

    I love the vehicles that use vegetable oil. One drove by me the other day and it smelled like french fries. That's so much better than exhaust, although it may contribute to our nation's obesity problem.
     
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  3. TigerKid05

    TigerKid05 Say Whaa!?!?

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    only problem is it will cost a little more for electricity but it;s a start. oh, and pickens will get rich off of this too
     
  4. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    Bull****...I'm paying enough now. I will not back any plan that would increase, instead of decrease, our cost of living.

    If we would build more refineries, and pump more oil out of American soil, then prices would go down...and stay down. If we needed more oil we could just increase production. That's my plan. Damn the freaking environment....not that I believe human produced carbon emissions are hurting the environment.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Not at all. American oil costs just as much as foreign oil. Big Oil doesn't charge based on what it costs them to produce oil, they charge based on the international price of oil. That's why they have posted huge profits in recent years. At our expense.

    Better do some planning first. This is another fallacy--that we have enough oil reserves to meet all our needs. In fact, we don't. It could only happen IF we reduced our oil consumption by three-quarters.

    Strike three. Just where do you get these fanciful notions?
     
  6. JM Tiger

    JM Tiger Founding Member

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    http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/press/proved_no_climate_crisis.html

    I'm becoming more convinced everyday!

    I like the enviroment though, and its not the emissions I would be worried about, it would be the effect the spills/footprint/etc would have.

    *edit*Oh, I guess Red was talking about it hurting the enviroment. I agree it does hurt it, just not as much as the media etc has made it out to be.
     
  7. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    The energy problems has to be solved on both the supply and demands side. We need to drill wherever there is oil and build more refineries. But we also have to build more nuclear plants, use more solar and wind technology and develop energy cell technology. Anyone who tries to solve the energy problem by emphasizing only one side of the energy equation is doomed to fail.
     
  8. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    I think this is a first, but I totally agree with BB. The world is a-changin. Economics will do that to ya. Get used to driving smaller, more fuel efficient cars, maybe that run on batteries or natural gas. I think Pickens is on to something. At least it should stimulate good discussion on future national energy policy.

    We'll probably have an electric for the commute to work, under 30 miles per day round trip, until battery tech gets better. Then we'll have an efficient gasoline car, like a Focus or Corolla for our long trips to the Smokey Mtns.

    BB's position is what Boone advocates, go for it all. Boone also says on his commercial, "We can't drill our way out of it". From an oil man, that says something.
     
  9. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Exactly but the speculators and oil companies in this country are being blamed for the problem.
    Big Oil is the only industry that I know of that the government has such tight controls over, over-regulation, it's not like they can go full speed ahead investing where they wish.
    This is another reason why their profits are so high!

    I know everybody wants to blame big oil and speculators for everything.
    Its the popular thing to do however there is more than one aspect to any problem.
    Oil prices have already fallen after the president announced off shore drilling.
    Coincidence? Maybe?
    I don't know, I hear about all the coal reserves we have, as big as Saudi Arabia's oil fields.
    Anyway, doesn't really matter I'm for alternative energy as well.
    Don't know anyone that isn't.

    The government and environmentalists are too blame for today's problems just as much if not more than Big Oil, China, etc.
    All play a role.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Big Oil posts huge profits, yet they still get $billions in government subsidies. Why is that? Because they own the white house and the congressmen and legislators in the oil states.

    All play a role, and there are even more factors, but the bottom line is that we use huge amounts of oil and it is growing, yet international reserves of oil are being depleted rapidly. We need an administration that can plan us a way to the future and put the priorities of the United States of America above the priorities of the stockholders of Exxon or the King of Saudi Arabia.
     

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