The John F. Kennedy Assasination

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  1. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    My highschool American History teacher LOVED this topic. We spent weeks doing research & coming up with our own theories about what happened.

    The one I found most plausable (atleast for a conspiracy theory) was with the mob & the cia/secret service.

    I don't remember ever hearing about the theory Red mentioned with secret service accidently shooting him, but I like that theory.
     
  2. NoLimitMD

    NoLimitMD Founding Member

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    Does OJ have an alibi?

    This topic is bizarre in many ways. It was a nationally devastating event, across party lines. Has no sound resolution. There are so many VIABLE and PLAUSIBLE conspiracy theories. And I don't think we'll ever really know the truth.

    I always considered Ruby just a passionate guy that did what many of us would have done if, say, Bin Laden were walking down the street.

    And yea, I had never heard the Red Secret Service theory either. Sounds pretty crazy to me, given the video tape. But then again, I don't guess I know too much about what happened.
     
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  3. USNavyTiger

    USNavyTiger Founding Member

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    CIA did it. Trust me :thumb:
     
  4. goldengirlfan

    goldengirlfan simple man

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    Jim Garrison thought so too.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Some pretty serious assasination researchers have shot down so much of Garrison's theory that what remains is highly suspect.

    Some other pretty good research indicates that Oswald was a genuine kook and he may well have been a lone gunman. For me the biggest flaw in any conspiracy theory is that many, many people would have had to be involved. It is hard to imagine a story that big not slipping out after 40 years. Then again, the conspiritors may all have gone the way of Oswald and Ruby very quickly.

    So much disinformation is out there clouding the real evidence that we may never know the truth.
     
  6. CalcoTiger

    CalcoTiger Live Long and Prosper IVI

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    Normaly RED i would agree with you on this. But if it was the Mob / CIA it would have been just a few people in the know and they would have been a very select team with a patsy set up.

    Back when we had a functioning CIA this is what they did. And it is said they were very pissed about the Bay of Pigs fiasco because they had done alot of work setting it up.

    One thing you have to remember was at this time Cuba had been a stronghold of the mob before Castro took over and they were not happy about losing that revenue.

    I wouldnt be surprised if Kennedy hadnt made a deal with them to win the election saying that he would take back Cuba and then he chickened out.

    Then after that knowing he had double crossed the mob he went after them with his brother with the might of the government.

    That is why i think this is a likely scenario. CIA had the team and because of the ties of both to Cuba it happenned.

    The key to Oswald as the patsy was set up by the people in New Orleans.

    At that time it was not easy to travel between the USA and Russia. Unless you had connections. Oswald did it and then came back. As the patsy he would have been possibly a Cia informant or operative. They used him to be there and he may not have even known their were other assassins there helping him.

    A former Marine . That is why he had to die so he could not ever be integregated once he figured out he had been set up.


    One possible theory any way.

    This is the one i believe has the most merit.

    If there was a cia team there with him we dont know who they were so we dont know if they met untimely deaths.

    And the Warren Commission sure didnt want to find out.

    No official Autopsy.

    That whole Parkland Hospital time was chaos.

    Being all the footage is in black in white of everything happenning it is very dramatic. Gives it a mystical/ supernatural quality.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    If it was actually a conspiracy, my best guess would be the rich Texas oilmen. Sid Richardson, Clint Murchison, and H.L. Hunt were fabulously wealthy billionaires who controlled texas politics and influenced national politics covertly for years. Their shady connections to J. Edgar Hoover and other have beenn documented.

    The motive was there to get rid of Kennedy, who was threatening to eliminate the oil depletion allowance that allowed oilmen to pay tiny taxes on their huge profits. The opportunity to get Lyndon Johnson, a man they controlled, into office was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Johnson instantly was in place to influence the coverups by misdirecting the government agencies he controlled.

    It would take huge amounts of money to engineer an assasination and coverup of this size. The money available to the Texas oilmen was vast compared to cuban exiles or government employees. Or even the mafia.
     
  8. NoLimitMD

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    Interesting idea, Red. This just seems so bizarre in modern times. Assassinating a US PRESIDENT over tax legislation? Wow...of course it's plausible, and we are talking 9 figure sums, but it just seems surreal, no?
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. -- Lord Acton, 1887
     
  10. Dirt Dog

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    Have many books/videos on the assassination. Got burned out on it many years ago. Still interesting though. I lean toward a conspiracy. Who? Don't know? More than one gunman. Better believe it. Always found it odd...no brain, no autopsy. The brain was missing when it was taken to Dulles. Why? Had to remove a bullet. Why? It showed the direction it was coming from...and it wasn't the back. I call the whole assassination event "Nightmare on Elm Street" (since Elm St. was where the assassination took place).
     

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