Terrorists: Evil or scamps?

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  1. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    In my continuing quest to enlighten liberals and show them the error of their ways, I offer this:
    For those who haven't heard of General Hawley, he's a newly retired USAF
    4-star general. He commanded the USAF Air Combat Command [our front-line
    fighters and bombers]. The Command headquarters is at Langley AFB, VA.
    General Hawley is now retired and no longer required to be politically
    correct. His short speech is very much to the point.

    The following are excerpts:

    "Since the attack [9-11], I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such
    surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too.
    Here they are:

    1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative." Listen
    carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with
    me now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't
    mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy
    on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country
    has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be
    the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in
    history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what
    happens.

    2) "Violence only leads to more violence." This one is so stupid you
    usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it.
    Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already:
    Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky,
    half-measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully
    thought-through, professional, well-executed violence never leads to
    more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead.
    That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not "nurtured back
    into the bosom of love." Dead. D-E --Well, you get the idea.

    3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have failed us."
    For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the
    ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not
    protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee
    Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided
    that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy
    satellites. "After all, (they reasoned,) you can see a license plate
    from 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a
    license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans
    is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we
    bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the
    really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans
    into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks
    like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a
    coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet
    that bin Laden fella. "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving
    the bad guys a story they'll be telling for years.

    4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at
    us." Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a
    desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than
    Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless
    people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in
    power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes
    into the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew
    this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching
    against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any
    cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend
    more time drinking. It's the same today.

    5) "Any profiling is racial profiling." Who's killing us here, the
    Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an
    article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden
    family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff,
    never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm
    crushed. Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are the World" for
    a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor
    in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and
    turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't
    offend them."

    SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget our murdered
    brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get away with their
    immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's political
    science professor says, we didn't start this. Have you seen that bumper
    sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "No
    More Pearl Harbors."
     
  2. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Great post. Instead of singing "We are the world" we should be singing "Another one bites the dust" every time one of these scumbags is terminated with extreme predjudice.
     
  3. usmctiger

    usmctiger Founding Member

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    That's Great. But re-education of liberals is generally a lost cause...they have such a backwards way of looking at reality...
     
  4. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    It's a thankless job but somebody has to try.
     
  5. CalcoTiger

    CalcoTiger Live Long and Prosper IVI

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    The liberalazation of this country is our downfall. The hard working go to work every day ,provide for your family heartland has been silenced.

    We sit by while the save the world liberals plunder and take our freedoms in the name of helping others. They offer programs designed to reward the lazy instead of actually helping the needy.

    I always go back to what President Kennedy said on matters of war.

    Peace at the expense of freedom , is neither peace or freedom.

    Sometimes we must fight for our way of life and for the human dignity of others. Unfortunatly there are Hitlers and Saddam Husseins in this world that have to be stopped. These people dont understand sitting down in front of them with a cup of tea to reason.

    You had better be tougher than they are. That is all they understand. It is a dishonor to every American serviceperson to lose their life defending this country to not stand up and fight for what we believe in.

    Freedom has a price that comes with it. So does free speach. Freedom is not easy and it must be fought for with every breath you take.

    When someone says something that makes your skin crawl and upsets you to understand that that is what this country is all about.

    But with it comes a responsibilty to stand up and let your voice be heard. Too many people dont vote and then they complain about the way things are.

    I just dont want our soldiers to die in vane. The mission is just and we have the imperative to defend our country against any evil wherever that evil lurks.

    Geaux Tigers
     
  6. JD

    JD Founding Member

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    What a joke. It is the right wing that hates freedom- absolutely LOATHES IT.
    "They offer programs designed to reward the lazy instead of actually helping the needy. "
    In contrast to the right that calls poor people losers , TAXES the middle class to the gills and then transfers the wealth to the WEALTHY and to their campaign contributors via special tax breaks corporate subsidies and the worst, government contracts. They cast the nation's taxpayers into severe debt, while their financiers fill their wallets. Oh, yea, the right wing really stands up for hard working americans. .

    Who is always decrying "Rights" - why far right wing, that's who. What is a right? A FREEDOM FROM GOVERNMENT. Yet who is against them? The RIGHT WING. Who goes into conniption fits when a "Right to Privacy" is mentioned?" The right, that's who.

    Who hates the concept of INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM? The far right wing, that's who.

    The right wing definition of freedom is FREEDOM OF GOVERNMENT TO CONTROL PEOPLE. That's why they call for "STATES RIGHTS"- note that isn't rights of the people, that is calling for more power of government to control people. That is also why most right wingers still decry court decisions like Brown or Griswold because they believe in government power - if the government wants to segregate races or ban contraception, that's certainly within their power - it is their RIGHT.
    But it sure as hell doesn't enhance freedom.
    Yet, amazingly, they oppose those court decisions yet accuse others of being anti-freedom??????

    The right's love of freedom certainly explains why the current president started his campaign in the last bastion of segregtion, why a recent president saluted the graves of the dearly departed SS dead, why the AG and many on the right revere the confederacy to this day- yes the most evil and anti-freedom regime ever to strike this land- is revered by the right; it explains why they universally lampooned Jimmy Carter for standing up for human rights.


    The only right they believe in is the second amendment.

    Yes we have to work hard - hard against the right's efforts to indoctrinate us and turn us into mindless trolls.
     
  7. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    The left has bad ideas, the right has no ideas. Being too far on either side is bad.
     
  8. usmctiger

    usmctiger Founding Member

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    JD's liberal rant is a prime example of how Libs try to pick and choose their principles. Liberals don't care about freedom of expression when it is a Christian saying a prayer in school. Or someone who is against Gay marriage voicing their opinions. "Right of Privacy" in Libspeak really means "Right to throw my sick perverted lifestyle in your face"

    That's why Liberals of so similiar to Nazism and Mother Russia's Communism, they believe they can decide what values and principles are important and force them on everyone else.

    When a radio talk show host spoke out against gay adoption, liberals screamed for her show to be pulled and her voice silenced.

    Liberals are So incredibly afraid of morals and values they have twisted "freedom of religion" into "Freedom from religion" a concept our founding fathers never ascribed to.

    They are very sick twisted people. It is NO WONDER they are being systematically elimnated form our political process..

    Bye Bye Libs...
     
  9. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    You hit the nail on the head with that post. Give the man the Golden Hammer Award.
     
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    now if only this guy could lose the irrational worship of magic wizard men in the sky he would have something.

    magic is for stupid children, but otherwise i like this guy.
     

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