Terrorist in Paris

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  1. CajunlostinCali

    CajunlostinCali Booger Eatin Moron

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    Spetsnaz begin with filing the teeth. Most would rather have them pulled.
     
  2. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    If you can't accept the culture of the country you immigrate to then it is all on you...Islam.
     
  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Islam is not a religion of peace.

    They actually believe that if you insult a prophet, you must die.

    The world is better off not putting up with their shit.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Not really. There has been serious friction between the French and their North African colonial muslims for many years. They have sent troops to Morocco, Algeria, and Chad to stem islamic violence. It was the French who whipped up the movement to crush Qadaffi in Libya. They have banned the veil in France and even headscarves in schools. There French are taking military action in Syria against ISIS. They joined in a fought in Afghanistan. There have been 500 islamic terrorism attacks in France including train bombings, many shootings, and suicide attacks. There have been a number of retaliation and backlash incidents as well. The French have had just about enough.

    American media doesn't make a big deal of it, but France has had more islamic terror incidents than anybody with so may indigenous muslims that have not assimilated, but live in islamic enclaves and generate many home-grown terrorists. Anti-immigration movements are stronger than they have ever been in Europe and France.

    Not a chance.

    But military action will not address these home-grown terrorists. That will require much a more tight and possibly invasive police presence, expansion of intelligence and surveillance, immigration restrictions, infiltration of terror groups and islamist movements, and laxer laws to allow deportation of undesirables. They may need to think about enacting the death penalty again.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Of course we can, we must simply learn to do it covertly like was alway done before the neocons thought it was somehow necessary to "legalize" it and reveal it.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No religion is. Intolerance of other religious is inherent in religious thought. about 4 millennia of military evidence confirms this.
     
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  7. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    I would say that it is more a reflection of the society rather than the religion. As you all should know Christianity and Judism have extremely violent pasts. Look at the religious wars in Europe during the reformation. The papists and Protestants killed each other with a vengeance. Was the bible any different back then? No but Western European society changed and the religious wars faded. However their remnants remained till recently... See Ireland and Yugoslavia. The western Christian countries also were comfortable with being as violent as needed to other non Christians like the Indians, Muslims of the Middle East (see crusades) Africans and of course Jews as much as fellow Christians.
    Jews in ancient times were as violent. Read the Old Testament. Look at the Jewish revolts against Rome. Until they were scattered and lost their unity they were as violent as any of the 3.
    As I said we have largely grown out of it. However most Muslims live in areas that have not matured. Afghanistan lives in the 9th century other states in the ME are still like they were socially 400 years ago. The society is closed and violent as well. Just like us 400 years ago the Sunnis and Shia want to tear each other's throats out. They are intolerant of other religions and societies.
    You can find passages in every holy book to justify violence or peace. It isn't what is in the book but what is taken out of it. Right now the Arab world Afghans and Iranian societies are pulling the primitive elements from the Koran. Islam is just the vehicle they justify their actions with.
    One problem Islam does have that contributes to the problem is the lack of structure in the "church". There is none. Anyone can be a mullah or holy man there is no formal pope or bishop or administration to lead. This makes it easier for radicals and harder for liberals to exert influence.
    I believe before there is a change in the face of Islam the societies that it thrives needs to change. The religon will change when they people do.
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That is from our perspective, of course. The United States recently invaded and occupied two Muslim countries, contributed to the downfall of the government in four others, still regularly airstrikes muslim targets in six countries, supports Israeli religious aggression, and wages economic warfare with sanctions and trade with another half dozen. From the raghead perspective, the Christian US is The Great Satan and the prime enemy of Islam. And they may have a point . . . other than the one on the top of their head.

    One must look at things through the eyes of the enemy to understand the whole complex situation.
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
     
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  10. uscvball

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    I don't think we can. Seriously. Most of the radical islamists have a point of view we can't understand and is being fostered in a way we can't combat other than with force.
     
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