Subpoenas target Justice; White House could be next

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  1. macatak911

    macatak911 CRAIG STELTZ = BEAST

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    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/15/fired.attorneys/index.html

    "WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said he doesn't care what the White House and Justice Department think of his subpoenas -- he wants answers.

    The committee Thursday authorized the use of subpoenas to five Justice Department officials in the investigation into the dismissals of eight U.S. attorneys."

    Political slant aside...someone explain to me what's going on with this. I heard some US atty's got fired but I'm not understanding whats wrong with that etc..
     
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  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Firing a federal prosecutor is something that is very rarely done. Nixon fired one. Carter fired one, Clinton fired one. Bush has fired 8 and wanted to fire 93.

    Attorney General Alberto Gonzales stated that they were all fired for cause, that is they improperly prosecuted a case. This was very suspicious because of the numbers involved. And justice department officials mislead Congress when asked about it.

    Now the democratic congress has asked for documentation and it has been discovered that emails exist from Harriet Miers (the presidents personal lawyer) as long as two years ago that the White House wanted these prosecutors fired, apparently because they beleived the prosecutors were prosecuting republicans or failing to prosecute democrats.

    The republican congress failed to provide oversight of the Justice Department, but the democratic one is demanding explanations. Some republicans are criticising the politically charged firings. They realize that if this stands there will be much payback if the democrats win the White House in 2008. They want it stopped.

    LINK -- GOP senator calls for Gonzales' firing

    Gonzales will probably resign over this. It's very big and very political.
     
  3. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Additionally here is some bio information on the fired attorneys.
    Link Fired Attorneys: Who's Who.
     
  4. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    And doesn't the prez get to appoint their replacements? No, that's not fishy at all.
     
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    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    And the Patriot Act says this can be done without Congressional oversight.
     
  6. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. That was a provision that they slid in there without anyone noticing. One must wonder, what does that have to do with preventing terrorism?
     
  7. macatak911

    macatak911 CRAIG STELTZ = BEAST

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    Nothing.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Where are the Hitler Youth today? :yelwink2:
     
  9. macatak911

    macatak911 CRAIG STELTZ = BEAST

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    Red said Clinton only fired one. Not saying he's right or wrong but he's usually correct regarding stats etc
     
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    Nets Didn't Care About Clinton Firing 93 U.S. Attorneys, Lead With Replacement of 8

    Posted by Brent Baker on March 13, 2007 - 22:12. [​IMG]The broadcast network evening newscasts, which didn't care in 1993 about the Clinton administration's decision to ask for the resignations of all 93 U.S. attorneys, went apoplectic Tuesday night in leading with the “controversy,” fed by the media, over the Bush administration for replacing eight U.S. attorneys in late 2006 -- nearly two years after rejecting the idea of following the Clinton policy of replacing all the attorneys. Anchor Charles Gibson promised that ABC would “look at all the angles tonight,” but he skipped the Clinton comparison. Gibson teased: “New controversy at the White House after a string of U.S. attorneys is fired under questionable circumstances. There are calls for the Attorney General to resign.”
    CBS's Katie Couric declared that “the uproar is growing tonight over the firing of eight federal prosecutors by the Justice Department” and fill-in NBC anchor Campbell Brown teased: “The Attorney General and the firestorm tonight over the controversial dismissal of several federal prosecutors. Was it political punishment?” Brown soon asserted that “it's a story that has been brewing for weeks and it exploded today” -- an explosion fueled by the news media.
    ABC's World News, the CBS Evening News and the NBC Nightly News on March 13 led with and ran multiple stories on the controversy, which were clearly propelled, in part, by attacks by Senate Democrats who demanded the resignation of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. But Justice Department clumsiness, which provided hooks for those Democratic attacks, does not absolve the news media of the responsibility for putting the replacement of U.S. attorneys into greater context for viewers so they would understand how Bush's predecessor removed every one (actually all but one as Brit Hume explained) so that Clinton, as is being charged in the current case, could replace them with attorneys more favorable to the administration's agenda.
    Unlike ABC, CBS and NBC watchers, cable viewers got a hint of context as Steve Centanni, on FNC's Special Report with Brit Hume, pointed out how “the White House acknowledged there were talks in 2005, just after the President won his second term, about terminating all 93 U.S. attorneys just as President Clinton unceremoniously did 1993 after he won the White House.” The point made it onto CNN's The Situation Room -- barely -- thanks to guest Terry Jeffries who raised it during the 4pm EDT hour of the program.

    Last week, on the same day as the Libby verdict, Katie Couric introduced a full March 6 CBS Evening News story by Sharyl Attkisson, who failed to remind viewers of Clinton's wholesale firings:
    “Another big story in Washington tonight also involves federal prosecutors, or at least former prosecutors. Eight U.S. attorneys were axed by the Bush administration last year, and some Democrats say the firings were politically motivated. Today some of those ex-prosecutors told Congress about the pressure they felt from top Republicans.”​
    Back in 1993, the networks weren't so interested in Clinton's maneuver. The April 1993 edition of the MRC's MediaWatch newsletter recounted:
    Attorney General Janet Reno fired all 93 U.S. attorneys, a very unusual practice. Republicans charged the Clintonites made the move to take U.S. Attorney Jay Stephens off the House Post Office investigation of Ways and Means Chairman Dan Rostenkowski. The network response: ABC and CBS never mentioned it. CNN's World News and NBC Nightly News provided brief mentions, with only NBC noting the Rosty angle. Only NBC's Garrick Utley kept the old outrage, declaring in a March 27 "Final Thoughts" comment: "Every new President likes to say 'Under me, it's not going to be politics as usual.' At the Justice Department, it looks as if it still is."

    read the rest: www.newsbusters.org
    i guess the hitler youth just didn't notice this little episode, right red?

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