you really should stop believing in your own hype. So since I am a liberal, I dont value hard work and the things that I have work for and accomplished, I dont want to preserve. DO you really hear yourself sometimes. :huh:
Notice I said "politicians", not just Obama in terms of how they live their own lives. I'm sure they pander to whatever audience they are about to address. My problem with Obama in this instance and many others is the continual America/Americans are doing it wrong. Self flagellation gets tiring but I understand that is the crux of his campaign when it's based on Change. It is important to convince people than anything currently in place has to be changed. It works for some, for me, it turns me off. And having spent time in Oregon, I don't think they should be allowed to vote. :hihi:
Well sure, but that style is also something that is quickly becoming unaffordable. Flag-waving won't help and neither will denial. It's only prudent to prepare for the imminent shortages of the future. Those that don't . . . More drilling is a only short-term solution. Our reserves are decreasing steadily and the end of affordable oil is no longer in a misty far future. You will see it and your kids will be impacted severely by it. It doesn't matter that we treasure our mobile lifestyle, in time we will be forced to change it--barring some miracle technological breakthrough in power generation. We can either change gradually, making well-thought-out moves, reducing our consumption steadily, and arriving at crisis time with an adapted lifestyle that still works for us and is possible without much oil. Or . . . we can charge forward without making changes, spend increasingly huge amounts on lifestyle, deplete our savings, go into deep debt as citizens and as a nation, and hit the wall hard at crisis time with a huge economic depression, cultural shock, and international political instability.
They shouldn't be allowed to log our last few public old-growth forests either. There are a lot of those trees that I haven't hugged yet.
This is a well thought out and sensible argument. I doubt many oil execs see it this way. Its get it now, screw later mentality for them.
Well when will it work for you, when gas is 8 dollars a gallon and milk is 8 dollars a gallon. Fighting wars in Iraq and Iran, along with engaging China and Russia at the sametime? I hope you will see light then, because things aint going so well for a good number of Americans right now. Im just saying, something needs to be changed from the last 8 years, I dont care if its Obama or Hillary, someone needs to differentiate this country from the Bush policies.
Oil executives are Republicans, you know. I read Obama's book and while there are large tracts of eloquent but empty rhetoric, he's does make many good points. One is his observation that in today's American politics, the democrats have become the party of "we're all in this together" while republicans have become the party of "every man for himself". Moderates yearn for the days before the party polarization of the 1970's. Then we could all be in this together and still let every man be himself. These ideals are not mutually exclusive except in the partisan politics of today.
that's kinda his point. the best way to get those countries on board is for the US to lead by example. of course, he has to get the this country on board first. "cumbaya, my lord, cumbaya." i thought thats what liberals did? i dont care. i also dont care that his middle name is hussein.
I am not in favor of the current situation or keeping a status quo. It was the self flagellation I referred to that I am tired of. If I know something is wrong, having someone constantly point it out gets annoying. They aren't going so well for me either. What Obama has put out in his official platform is the furthest from what I connect with, understand, believe, have in common. Illegal immigration is destroying the Southern California economy. I have read in great detail what Obama's thoughts are on that including his plan for health care since the two are conjoined and I am not even close to satisfied. Bush will not be in the White House, so that is a pre-determined event. I DO care. Any candidate is a differentiation from Bush, because none of them ARE Bush. I understand this is Obama's strategy to cast McCain as Dubya Jr. but McCain has a much longer history in the Senate for people to be able to make a decision about him.
Come on V, i know good and hell well, you dont believe McCains bs, he is the new king of flip flop, if you dont think his policies wouldnt closely mirror GW, I have to tell you that it will. His healthcare and economic plans are a joke. He has definitely flip flopped on his Foreign policy stance a few times in the last 2 weeks. Just because he has the history doesnt make him right for the job, if you do a job bad for 10 years, would expect a promotion? Also, thanks for the news flash, i know the next president wont be Bush, but my point is McCain will be an extension of his policies. He proposing to double Bushs tax cuts, without a clue in the world on how to pay for that, which will push our defeceit even higher.
