Pine needles are probably incidental and were stuck to his hand. Fingering was foreplay. He was fingering her and the dudes saw him, then he got up to puke and they confronted him and grabbed him. Again, it never progressed to sex.
What I said that separates thieves from people who pay, etc. is all tied to mental instability and criminal behavior. Nothing to do with what we're talking about though. With the Stanford guy he started out to get some pus. The other stuff was him playing around without a clue of the seriousness of what he was doing, apparently. What bathroom do you use anyway? Jus askin.
Correct. I don't k ow what happened, but I do because I know everything. He asked her to go back to his place, she agreed, he assumes that means she will bang, which is a safe assumption, they walk, they fall, they make out, he starts to fingerblast, she enjoys it until she passes out, then things go downhill when he is too slow to realize or quit fingerblasting and the dudes on bikes show up.
Again, there was no semen to prove penetration and the internal damage could easily be assigned to penetration by his fingers and the pine needles. He was seen laying on top of her moving around. His testimony is not to be believed. Not only was he at least twice the legal limit, he repeatedly lied to the probation officer and the court. Liars are liars. The prosecution went with what they could prove.
You serious? I've seen both girls and guys get that drunk more than once. Hell, I've had it happen one night drinking shapps (sp?) with beer.
Maybe I just never attempted to drink myself silly that much. Stayed mostly in the Weed scene I guess. Now after a few beers I just go to bed lol.
different things get a guy going. why do you like me to pull your hair for instance. Great sex for lots of women is often borderline rape. Same for him maybe.
Look Cher, what you want and plan to get from a woman sexually is not what a rapist wants or plans for. Capiche? Playing around? Is that what you do when you are playing around? Shove dirt and tree leaves into a woman's vagina when she's unconscious? He knew exactly how serious it was or he wouldn't have tried to run. He lied repeatedly. He's a rapist, plain and simple. Are you telling me that with enough alcohol, you will rape a woman if she is completely blacked out? Fuck you.