Smart Bomb question

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  1. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    With the news today that China has blown up a satellite.
    I think that this means that our smart bombs become dumb bombs
    if China or another country was to blow up our satellite since they
    are gps guided?

    I think we are in a whole lot of sh!t.
    I believe China could sell this to North Korea, Iran or terrorists.
    Or I still don't trust China or Russia.
    I think the future is bleak for us because our military has been
    down graded so over the years.

    I see so many enemies and a whole new arms race including terrorists!
    I miss the good ole days, us vs Soviets.
    At least then you had mainly two side that were somewhat civil.
    Some enemies of today will sacrifice everything at ANY cost!
     
  2. TigerWins

    TigerWins Founding Member

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    I think most of our military satellites are out of range, but many of our communications and spy satellites can now be taken out.

    I'm not worried about China selling anything to North Korea as they don't want to destabilize that region. They don't want the U.S. in their backyard. Iran is a bigger problem as China's oil needs continue to grow. I can see them giving Iran this kind of technology in exchange for oil.

    We've had this technology for over 20 years. I guess it was only a matter of time before someone else got it. China is rapidly becoming the next superpower.
     
  3. NoLimitMD

    NoLimitMD Founding Member

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    Our ICBMs are still gyro-based, with GPS as a back-up to mitigate some of this risk.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    GPS satellites are vulnerable to attack, as are most satellites. China has a very limited ability to destroy satellites compared to ours but it can be done. However knocking out the entire GPS constellation would be very difficult and could not be accomplished simoutaneously. We would retaliate very swiftly if even one satellite were taken out. Also we have a classified number of spares ready to go up as replacements if needed.

    Most enemies wouldn't dream of taking the GPS out because they rely upon it themselves and can't afford to put one up. Even the Russian constellation is falling apart because they can't afford it any more.

    Our ICBMS use inertial guidence systems, the GPS just gives them the ability to maneouver upon re-entry to make them harder to hit. We also possess many other types of smart bombs, like laser and TV-guided weapons, they just cost more.

    Don't lose any sleep, SDM. Our military has been downsized, not downgraded. We still have a huge technological advantage over our enemies. None of them have an operational steath capability and we have 3rd generation steath aircraft now in service. Korea and Iran do not have the technology or the cash for a space-based weapons system and China's is so limited as to be ineffective . . . at least for now.

    And there are two major new technologies coming that will change warfare as we know it. One is already becoming operational and is out of the black because there are too many systems being tested to hide it any longer -- Directed Energy Weapons (DEW). This includes high-energy lasers, high-powered microwaves, and particle beams. They each have existed in laboratories for decades and are now being deployed in limited roles. When they reach the battlefield in few years they will revolutionize warfare.

    We are talking about weapons that have amazing precision and operate at the speed of light. Already we have developed a deuterium floride laser than can shoot down Katuysha rockets and artillery shells and we have reportedly shared it with the Isaraelis who helped fund its development.

    Also already deployed is a system called Active Denial, which is a high-powered microwave that makes a person feel like he stepped into an oven. It can be precisely targeted to defend an area. People entering an area defended by AD quickly scramble to get away from it and dare not return. It causes no lasting damage but no one can withstand it for more than a few seconds without retreating. It has been described as the first operational force field. It's still highly classified but reported to be deployed to protech embassies in high-risk countries. It may also have been used in Iraq.

    Airborne chemical lasers are already operational and consitute one of our best defenses against a Korean ICBM. It is housed in a Boeing 747 that flies large ovals over the Pacific and can take down a ballistic missile in its boost phase from hundreds of miles away . . . at the speed of light. These weapons can also be used to protect our satellites from attack by Chinese anti-satellite missiles.

    Particle beams are essentially artificial lightning and weapons are being developed with this techology. Phased lasers using new wavelenghs are the next deveopment. These weapons will be remarkably similar to phasers and photon torpedoes of Star Trek fame.

    The other technology that is coming is still deeply in the black and very little information has slipped out . . . Zero Point Technology. It is one of the most highly classified research fields ever and I can tell you little about it other than it exists. What it involves is anti-gravity research and remarkable breakthroughs have been rumored.

    This technology has the potential to provide the vast amounts of energy that the Directed Energy Weapons require as well as making conventional aircraft and spacecraft obsolete and eliminating fossils fuels in producing clean energy. Wouldn't that upset the Iranians and the Saudis?

    The main obstacles to deployment of these systems is their vast costs, which is why it is essential to our military future to quit hemorraging billions of dollars is this ridiculous Iraqi misadventure. We have the technology to defeat our real enemies in the future if we don't go broke like the Soviets in the meantime.

    Sleep easy Sourdough, Captain Kirk is coming.
     
  5. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    I do feel much better now!:lol: :grin:
    How do you know all of this stuff, its amazing Amigo!:grin: :lol:
    Sounds like Star Trek and Star Wars, to of my favorite shows!:thumb:
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. :grin:
     
  7. bayareatiger

    bayareatiger If it's too loud YOU'RE TOO OLD

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    The BEST thing about this post...

    This is all that is KNOWN.

    I can't begin to imagine what else we are working. :thumb:

    Still proud to be :usaflagwa .
     
  8. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    He does sound like a nutcase. Like the search for cold fusion or perpetual motion machines, there are a ton of amateurs out there promoting their own schemes, most of which are dead-enders. But serious military Zero Point research is being conducted and it is black, black, black. consider that much of the stuff out there in public is disinformation. Winston Churchill said, "Sometimes the truth is so precious it must be accompanied by a bodyguard of lies."

    Much of the published ZPT like you find in Wikipedia is theoretical Quantum Mechanics and encompases many types of ZP energy schemes. But . . . the particular ZP technology that the military is interested in is anti-gravity technology.

    A very good overview of what is now known is in the book "The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the classified world of antigravity technology" by Nick Cook. Cook is not a kook. He is the highly-respected editor of Janes Defense Weekly, the world's leading military affairs journal. Janes was on top of steath technology years before it was public knowledge. His reserach into what is known about ZPT is exceedingly interesting. The resistance he encountered on this particular topic despite his unprecedented access to key sources gives an indication of just how important this field is taken by the military.

    I've made some inquiries to some of my friends in physics research about ZP and they confirm that there is a black hole on information about the government research in this area . . . and a lot of disinformation is being floated.
     
  10. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    It's an interesting subject. A little over my head, but interesting non-the-less. Some break through like this must be made if we are to further our exploration of the universe. We're nothing more than a bunch of kids with bottle rockets right now. In order to truely reach distant objects, we must conquer light speed. In order to do that, we must reinvent our propulsion methods. It will be one hell of a day when we finally conquer time itself. I hope I'm around to see it. I doubt I will be though. Oh well, at least I can still watch old Star Trek reruns.
     

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