An artillery shell with sarin nerve agent was just found in Iraq today for all of those people that just hate Bush and say there were no WMD's in Iraq. You were stupid for playing that card since the UN and many countries already knew that Iraq had WMD's. I'll say it again, all the WMD's from Iraq, some are buried in Iraq but I'm betting most of them are in Syria just like Saddams family and Bathists. What do you no WMD's in Iraq people have to say now? Let me guess, from no WMD's to its only 1 round and could be left over from the first Gulf War. http://www.foxnews.com/ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/ God bless America :usaflagwa
No way it could be left over from the first Gulf War because Saddam said they were all destroyed before then, imagine that. I also love that Middle Easterners get so angry if American soldiers go anywhere near one of their shrines and fear that we will desecrate tham in some way. Meanwhile their terrorist brothers armed to the teeth are using them both as a fort and a launching pad for terrorist attacks. MOAB MOAB MOAB!!!!!!!!! :usaflagwa :usaflagwa :usaflagwa :usaflagwa :usaflagwa :usaflagwa :usaflagwa :usaflagwa :usaflagwa :usaflagwa :usaflagwa
a shrine? these people have No shrine. they murder and hide it behind religion. their disdain for anything of culture is obvious. Murder is a intergal part of their religion. Peaceful Muslims aren't living up to ISLAM's preachings. Read the Koran. this is why they sit and stare when they hear their terrorist brothers accuse them of being weak, because they are. They have become tainted. Shrine? These people are in a Jihad with us a holy war. Salidan was in a Jihad with the Crusaders oh I dunno 500 or so years ago? What's changed? I 'll tell you what's changed, we now have the ability to rid the world of this plague called ISLAM for good. IF it were a group of Jehovah witness' practising human sacrifice we would stop it. So why don't we just do the Branch Davidain thing on their murdering asses and get rid of them, do the world a favor. Religious freedom should only be for those religions that aren't murdering people.
Interesting, if it was a binary chemical round. This is an uncommon type of chemical artillery shell, often found in superpower inventories, but rarely elsewhere. Some are going to suggest it was a Russian round smuggled in by Al Quaida. Of course, Al Jazeera will say that it is a plant by the US military. However, existing documents on Iraqi capabiities in the 1990's suggest that they could have produced a limited quantity of binary nerve-gas shells. Binary shells are safer to handle because two safe chemicals must be mixed during flight to be come a lethal agent. But most third-world armies don't use them. They are more expensive, more complicated, and carry less nerve agents than conventional unitary shells. It is a poor weapon for roadside bomb use because the two chemicals inside must mix during the shell's flight to create the agent before detonation. Such a shell simply set off with other explosives would disperse the chemicals before they could properly mix and become Sarin. The insurgents probably didn't even know they were using a chemical munition. From the Department of Defense GULFLINK declassified documents: Iraq: Potential for Chemical Weapon Use ... 22. IRAQ IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING THE COMPONENTS AND CHEMICALS FOR BINARY CHEMICAL MUNITIONS, BUT THE NUMBER OF BINARY WEAPONS IN INVENTORY IS BELIEVED TO BE LIMITED. UNITARY MUNITIONS REMAIN THE PRIMARY CHEMICAL WEAPON TYPE IN THE IRAQI INVENTORY. ONE OF IRAQ'S MOTIVATIONS FOR DEVELOPING BINARY WEAPONS WAS TO MAKE CHEMICAL AGENTS THAT AREÔSTABLE IN STORAGE. BINARIES COMBINE TWO OR MORE CHEMICALS IN A MUNITION TO PRODUCE A CHEMICAL AGENT. THE CHEMICALS USED IN THE BINARY WEAPON ARE NOT CHEMICAL AGENTS AND HAVE LOWER TOXICITY,SO THEY ARE EASIER TO PRODUCE WITH GOOD QUALITY THAN UNITARY CHEMICAL AGENTS AND ARE SAFER TO HANDLE. ... 25. BINARY WEAPONS HAVE DISADVANTAGES THAT WOULD REDUCE THEIR VALUE TO THE IRAQIS. A LARGE PART OF THE BINARY'S INTERIOR IS FILLED WITH NONLETHAL COMPONENTS THAT HELP MIX THE CHEMICALSWHEN THE WEAPON IS DELIVERED. THESE COMPONENTS ALSO HELP KEEP THE CHEMICALS SEPARATED PRIOR TO USE. BECAUSE THE REACTION MUST TAKE PLACE WHILE THE WEAPON IS EN ROUTE TO THE TARGET, THE REACTION DOES NOT CONVERT ALL THE DF TO A CHEMICAL AGENT WHEN THE ROUND HITS ITS TARGET. THE ROUND CONTAINS A MIXTURE OF AGENT, UNREACTED DF, UNREACTED ALCOHOL, HF, AND OTHER IMPURITIES WHEN IT REACHES THE TARGET. ...
Of course, every news website EXCEPT CNN has news of chemical weapon shells found on their front page. Amazing.
TwistedTiger, You say that the middle easterners don't like it when we go near one of thier shrines, I bet all of thier chemical weapons are hid inside shrines and other religious facilities. It makes perfect sense when you think the mindset of the Iraqis and the Insurgents is to store munitions in schools and religious sites along with attacking us and using those sites for a fortress.
Let's see how this plays out. Yesterday Rumsfeld reminded everybody that there have been dozens of false-positive field tests in Iraq in the past year and all of them proved to be negative when analyzed in the lab. Some of the media have been burned before by these reports and are likely waiting for the lab results before hitting the story too hard, for fear of having to back off of it later. Still, it would be prudent to assume that some chemical rounds may have escaped the monitored destruction of Saddam's chemical weapon stockpile in the 1990's. The capable army ordnance disposal unit recognized the shell and was well-prepared to deal with it, however.
of course, Saddam never hid his weapons or anything of military ordnance in non civilian areas, ever. always in hospitals/school/mosques. And unless you have an underlying agenda, this is not anything no one didnt already know about his weapons or capabilities. Oh no, really....sarin and mustard gas. What a shock. get real.
