you should read some of my earlier post, I have stated that it works both ways. I agree with you, but there is a reason we are called minorities, I am speaking on a larger scale and you cant deny who that discrimination was toward. But I get your point
In my post I stated that there is on doubt it went on, 1960's and before were horrible, but there has been much progress made. Rev. Wright and his ilk need to let some it go, and work toward improvement, not fire his followers up about past injustices.
if obama is running on "change" then why is he closely identified with this hate-mongerer in the pulpit. why is he aligned with the "new black panther party" why is he aligned with an admitted terrorist from the "weather underground" am i missing something here? seems to me that based on those he seeks counsel from and aligns himself with are 1. racist 2. dangerous
prove it with sources and links, otherwise, you are not any better with your hateful lies and opinions.
The New Black Panters do support Obama but he has rejected the support. Its response: "That's politics": http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/0...-carries-new-black-panther-party-endorsement/
Here is some information on the Weather Underground connection: Besides Rezko and Giannoulias, Obama could face questions about his relationship with William Ayers, a former member of the radical group the Weather Underground who is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois in Chicago. Ayers donated $200 in 2001 to Obama's Illinois state Senate campaign and served with him from 1999 to 2002 on the nine-member board of the Woods Fund, an anti-poverty group. A Series of Bombings The Weather Underground carried out a series of bombings in the early 1970s -- including the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon. While Ayers was never prosecuted for those attacks, he told the New York Times in an interview published Sept. 11, 2001, that ``I don't regret setting bombs.'' http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=adgAs9YOxRSc I have to plead ignorance on the Weather Underground, hadn't heard of them until recently. No idea what Obama does or doesn't have to do with them. EDIT: Here is some more information on Weather Underground: The question of why Ayers isn't in jail is moot; he was never prosecuted for the dozen or so bombings the Weather Underground claimed responsibility for. But Ayers and Dohrn are unrepentant about their years spent waging a violent campaign against the government. "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at," Ayers was widely quoted as saying at the time (though he told the Times he couldn't remember if he said it). http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-goldberg26feb26,0,663716.column Pretty interesting analysis in the article. Have to admit, Hillary is taking some shots at Obama that she may not be able to withstand herself.
the article goes on to describe how they wished "they could have done more" to further their cause. of course some of the tools used to further their cause included setting off bombs i guess his campaign thought just as i did that perhaps this wasn't the best association for obama. why did the obama camp accept the endorsement and post it on their own website??? oh and btw, mastermind.... i'm not in the habit of lying. i asked some legitimate questions, seeking answers. this is being discussed all over the internet, blogs, etc and talk radio. i thought it worthy of discussion. believe me, obama will face much more scrutiny regarding his associations. you sir, perhaps would benefit from doing some research yourself before you resort to such as this. from reading your postings i've come to expect more of you than this. i apoligize in advance for not knowing proper "linking" etiquette.
ok so you are in the habit of presenting half of the truth of your opinion. You used the word aligned in your post earlier, not once did you say, he had rejected these organizations endorsement, nor did you map out true link and relationship that indicates the is currently involved in any of these organizations or that he agrees with their rhetoric. However, all of a sudden you say you posed a serious question in which I dont see one. Nor are you unbiased in your post because John McCain, Mike Huckabee, and Ron Paul have some serious and inflammatory endorsements which should be rejected and brought forth. But your point was to insuate that he agrees and aligns himself with all of this hateful rhetoric and that sir is and was the lie, Imo
Well, that's exactly what I mean. It shouldn't matter what the reasons are, some of the white people are angry, too. My point was simply that racism goes both ways, we all know it. Obama stated this clearly. But there is still some justification implied for black racism and I just think that this is a hump in the road that still must be smoothed a bit. Sort of what I was getting at. I'm glad you understand what I mean. It was a good speech. One thing he said that I thought was very true and deserves more attention is that racism is generational and we have come a very long way since Jim Crow. Older men like his preacher and our remaining supremicists just cannot move any further forward. Progress has been made and is still being made by the youngest generations. I see it in my own family. My paternal great grandfather was a Confederate soldier in the 28th Alabama infantry, my maternal great-grandfather was in the Klan in the '30's. That generation was an enemy of the black man. My grandfathers were small country farmers with deep animosity of blacks and never associated with them, but didn't cause them problems either. My father was a George Wallace democrat who harbored a private distrust towards blacks, but never actually discriminated against one or insulted one. He even had a few black aquaintances with whom he shared a mutual respect. My generation saw segregation disappear remarkably fast, went to school with blacks, played ball with blacks, and had blacks that were true friends. Racism in my generation has declined to the point of our use of the "N-word" (with which were were raised and still slips out when we are angered) and to our conscious and unconscious biases. I have no children, but observing my young cousins and working at a major university for 30 years, I see that the new generation has even lost the slurs and much of the conscious bias. The time of "no big deal" is just a generation or two away, perhaps. This progress should be recognized and embraced for what it portends, as Obama seems to be doing. Whether Obama wins or not, he has replaced the race-baiting voices of the past--Jackson, Sharpton, and Farrakhan--as the voice of Black America. This is a fellow that has credibility with White America that will pay dividends in the future. Indeed I do and I consider this concept to be a major key to the solution. As I've told you before, I'm willing to accept responsibility for the racism of my generation and race. Certainly I recognize it and have been a part of it. I can help push my demographic group in the right direction. I'm just unwilling to be burdened by the guilt of earlier generations nor to take responsibility for problems that can only be solved by the black community itself. I think if you ask the average black fellow what the biggest problems facing black Americans are he would put racism at #1. I think if you ask the average white guy what the biggest problems facing the black community are, racism would come in around #4 after crime, school dropout, and teenage pregnancy--issues within the black community and family. I beg you to consider that not every problem that faces you is due to your race. White folks don't have a path paved with silver, you know. We have to deal with many of the same problems black folks do. When something bad befalls me, it certainly ain't because I'm black, but because I neglected something, performed poorly, made the wrong call, or simply had bad luck. I think these things cause some of black folks' problems, too. And if they can deal with those issues, then we are only left with fixing a racial bias problem that is in our control, thus doable.
Great post:thumb: I definitely agree with what you are saying. Alot of the time we can use racism and discrimination as a crutch and that hurts more than we think. I get angry sometimes as what I see as racism or discrimination. I cant even lie about that, I get down right mad and upset. I also believe that I was raised right and I never let it get me down, I am upfront about things, I always believe if something didnt go right it was because of my doing. Excuses in many situations that has to deal with perceived racism, are just tools of incompetence and there is always a way to get through them with rational people.
