Polls swinging towards McCain/Palin

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  1. DRC

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    http://www.pollingreport.com/

    Since the Republican convention and the announcement of Palin, every poll has swung sharply towards McCain/Palin. Is this a convention bounce or something long term? Obama got very little bounce from the convention compared to what was expected. His was short lived (approx 3 days) and few percentage points.

    The recent polls show most of the independents are now breaking for McCain. Even more encouraging for McCain, and troubling for Obama, is the female vote. A majority of women where largely in Obama's corner but they are moving in big numbers towards McCain/Palin. Every poll since the convention shows the race in McCains favor or in a statistical dead heat.

    While national polls are for talking fodder, the polling in the all important swing states is even more encouraging for McCain. Where the election will likely be won or lost based on electoral college votes, McCain has made incredible gains.

    Did McCain just hit that much of a home run with Palin or has Obama lost his luster a little? I would think its a combination of both. Obama hasnt helped himself with the 180 degree turn around on the surge. Palin is already moving the evangelical's back into the contest and appealing to women and independents. Further, Obama's recent "lipstick on a pig" comment is going to erode womens support even more when those polls are taken. Even Geraldine Ferraro was sharply criticizing those comments as sexist last night and Obama's inexperieince is more glaring.

    Two months ago I thought this would be a landslide electoral college victory for Obama. It could still happen but there is definately movement and that has changed the face of this election.
     
  2. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    If someone is crazy enough to believe he was talking about Palin then they werent going to vote for him in the first place. Obama isnt that stupid. McCain campaign created something out of nothing, which is good politics for people who buy into that kind of stuff. Its smart, dirty, but smart.

    Also, it isnt sharp at all, they have just increase republican participation in these polls. Here is my evidence :grin:

    From an AP article I read yesterday.
    Not saying that it really matters, but something to think about. This race will be just as close as the 2000 Presidential race, no way either takes it in a landslide.
     
  3. DRC

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    Polling Report dot com is a site without opinion and conjecture. IT simply reports the results and the criteria used. That AP article has no facts to back up the claim these polls are sampling more republicans. The polls have no such caveat in their reporting claims and an opinion by AP is not evidence, its an opinion.

    Maybe he wasnt but with Geraldine Ferraro taking a big swing at it, it surely lends credibility to the comment being questionable and up for debate. She called it sexist and she is a hard core democrat.
     
  4. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    To what knowledge do you have of pollingreport.com not having an opinion? Nobody knows that for sure just like the rest of these independent sites and research groups. We dont know the people who work their and who oversees the activity. Nothing is completely free of opinion.
     
  5. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    A hard core democrat who hates Obama, which was evident from the primaries, she doesnt lend any credibility to it at all from her behavior and rhetoric from the primaries, that automatically disqualifies her from a balanced view of the comment. She has cried wolf before. He didnt even reference Palin in his comment, he reference McCains policy. The same thing McCain did when used to comment earlier this year to reference a policy from Hillary Clinton, so lets be realistic with your "maybe" comment.
     
  6. DRC

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    How is assembling all the various polls and putting them in one place constitute opinion of any kind? Just check their report, go to the site they gathered the data from and you will see its the exact same content. There is no opinion, no commentary and no speculation. Its just a conduit and pretty easy to determine what they report is an accurate mirror of the source they report from.
     
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    I'll definitely take a look at it, from your suggestion.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The polls swing back and forth during a close race. It has always been that way. Obama got a bounce after the DEM convention and McCain got a bounce after the GOP. It's a long way to the election.

    Right now Palin is getting a bunch of exposure because she is attractive and and her conservative Christain background has gotten disgruntled social conservatives to get interested in McCain. But Palin has not appeared on any Sunday talk shows, has given no major interviews, and only appears in the company of McCain. When she starts getting hardballs thrown at her on policy issues, we'll see if the love affair with Palin holds up. In two months she may look more like a lightweight.

    Meanwhile it has been pointed out that Obama has gotten more young people out to vote in the primaries than any politician in history. Enthusiasm is high among young voters, most of whom use cell phones exclusively, which are not called during these polls. Some suggest that the polls are not getting a feel for how the youth is going to vote in this election.
     
  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    When Obama was way ahead you declared the race over.
     
  10. DRC

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    Who says her view is balanced? Who cares if it is or not. She is a democrat and I guess one who will be voting against Obama in the election like some other Hillary democrats. :)
     

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