Opinions on the Cincy police beating death

The city coronor has ruled this a homicide. I do not know if any of you have seen the tape of the incident, but I do not see where the police overstepped any boundries in this incident. All tapes and reports show the victim started the fight that led to his death, not to mention other issues with him that contributed to his death.

This could be a huge issue in Cincinatti because in 2001 there was a 3 day riot after a white police officer killed a black teen.
Here is a link with some good info.

My question is this, do you guys feel this was a racial incident as some are portraying it in the Cincinatti area, or is it circumstance and the same would have happened had the victim not been black.


http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/12/03/died.in.custody/index.html

 

Not a racial incident in my opinion. What were they supposed to do,let the guy attack them??? He tried to hit one of this officers. They may have stepped over the line with excessive hits, but I don't know....he did try and lunge at one of them I thought?

 

The guy form-tackled a cop, for the love of God! It took six police officers to bring him down. I don't care if you are a pink and purple alien from the planet Zartron, you assault a cop, you're gonna get a well deserved beatdown. Oh yeah, did you know the guy was high on cocaine and meth at the time? Give me a break.

I have yet to read the coroner's report, but the from info I was getting a few days back, everyone was saying that his death was not caused by the injuries from the police and was most likely a drug induced heart attack, since he had an enlarged heart. Cocaine and meth are not good for anybody, but especially for a person with an enlarged heart.

 

Actually I think the coroner today said that his death was a homicide...But regardless, police have to protect themselves...

 

All else being equal, if the guy was white he'd be just as dead but we would have never heard about it.

 

It's just so tough being a white person in this society - victims, all of them. They get the shit kicked out of them all the time.

And duke boys, no one has been charged - this was a CORONER's ruling that simply said his death was a result of the blows he received.

 

Actually, yes they do, JD. Police often have to use force against white perpetrators who resist arrest, and, since white people are the majority of the population, it makes since that more whites get arrested than blacks (true statistic) and that some whites have to get clubbed because they resist arrest (don't have any stats to back that up, but it is a logical conclusion). The most vicious police beatdown I have ever seen happened on an episode of COPS, and the perpetrator was a drunk white guy who was involved in a domestic disturbance. Like the guy in Cincinatti, he had it coming. Common sense says you should not attack a police officer.

[/B][/QUOTE]And duke boys, no one has been charged - this was a CORONER's ruling that simply said his death was a result of the blows he received. [/B][/QUOTE]

Okay, so his death was due to the injuries he received in the struggle. So, in your opinion, were the actions of the police warranted, or did they do something wrong?

 

A HOMICIDE implies wrongdoing. And, JD, please enlighten me: What was racist about my post? My point was that there would not be any "advocates" for a white guy who died after being subdued by police officers, therefore, no media circus. That is just the way it is.

 

That's what I thought.

 

What? I'm supposed to live on this board and respond to your inquiries? Of course your silly comment about white people was worthy of the odor of duke.
Homicide may imply that to you, but that's not what it means. A CORONER does not make decisions on culpability - I suggest you read the article and see that all it means is that the death was caused from a beating - it certainly may be JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE.

The question I would ask is simply this - why the rush to subdue him? I thought they probably levelled a few too many blows, but nothing terribly outrageous. But they were clearly outmanned. Just pull back, talk to him and wait for backup then tackle him, if necessary, with 5 officers instead of the outmanned 2 and without the billy clubs.