OK, I'm seeking out Democrats for some "deprogramming"...

How could I forget!
Geaux Tigers 2.

 

I didnt say Saddam Hussein did or didnt have anything to do with 9-11. Even though i think they have found traces of money from Iraq that has ended up in Al- Quida hands.

I was saying that him and people like him are responsible for those acts.

If you are going to pose something i wrote please read it and listen to the meaning. Dont put your spin to it.

I was making an analogy of those kind of people.

Geaux Tigers

 

tigermojo...

I'll say this...Coulter referenced one man who provided her with free information about his upcoming book on Joseph McCarthy.

Al Fraken was given a Fellowship at Harvard and given an entire array of graduate assistants to help him write his book. No less than 14 GA's from Harvard helped him craft, research, and put his book together. This is a book that's allegedly from a "Political Satirist" and is doing it for "humorous schtick"...

This is verifiable fact. Coulter did her own research and verified her sources on her own. Franken was given an entire media research department at graduates of one of the most prestigious Universities in the world, an Ivy League school named Harvard.

I came here asking for someone, ANYONE of the Democratic Party to deprogram me. I didn't ask to be pointed. I asked you to refute the information I came out and posted about.

CB66, well, it's obvious he can't refute anything I said, just make the idiotic claim that I just came here to spout off and go off, when in actuality, I layed out facts, and I asked anyone to refute them, because I knew I was getting a partisan viewpoint. His absolute ignorance in the face of me asking for a Democrat to explain these situations away once again shows him to embody that famous line from Shakespeare's Hamlet...

"Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing...."

That's CB66, and I actually appreciate you going to track down the book itself and actually reading it. If I had the $$, I would go and track down Franken's. I've half a mind to try to see if any local libraries have it in stock.

I promise you that your justifications or the results of your own research into the subjects I brought up will not fall upon deaf ears. I want to get the entire picture about this. Contrary to popular belief, I'm interested in hearing a member of your party justify and/or refute the information (that's verifiable and documentable, even though CB66 claims its not). That's what I wanted when this began, and so far, it still has not come to pass.

 

I posted question to you a few messages up. I will repost in case you missed it:


I managed to buy Ann Coulter's book today and just started reading it. You've certainly made a lot of broad claims. However, is it fair to come here and use Ann Coulter as a reference and require us to refute her statements? Are you willing to provide facts or is your position that we must first refute your claims

 

Dude, you said 9/11 was a wake-up call for us to people like Saddam. You could have said Osama, but you didn't. It's exactly the same thing the Bush administration has been doing to create the public perception that 9/11 and Saddam were connected.

You can accuse me of not understanding your post, and that may be true, but my point is it was an oft repeated assertion to win public approval for invasion of Iraq, and it is not true.

 

You aren't suggesting that, because Franken worked with some of the best and the brightest to make sure that the info he put in his book was fact-based, and Coulter had to do her own research, that his book is somehow less factual?

I'll pick up the book on my way home and get back to you. Maybe then I'll program you to be a good little liberal.

 

OK....Holeup....

How would you have me verify her information? You see the annotations in her book. You see the transcripts of the HUAC (interesting it's a HOUSE committee, and Senator Joseph McCarthy never sat in on a single committee meeting), you see the quotes that are in the book.

LSUbuzz, are you LITERALLY going to say that she's lying and she's made this verifiable information up? Seriously?

I want you to refute the FACT that FDR employed Communist spies in his administration, and when faced with proof of this, at first, he did nothing, then laughed, and then finally removed people like Alger Hiss from his administration...and moved him to the Top US position on the IMF!!!!!

Do you want to refute the fact that Alger Hiss, who was convicted of espionage on behalf of the Soviet Union, did NOT advise and was NOT a close confidant of FDR at the Yalta talks between the USSR and the USA, between FDR and Joseph Stalin?

Are you going to tell me that the memoirs of Russian leaders that mention the man who was actually given a medal by the USSR while on the payroll of the US Government is a lie? Are you accusing Coulter of literally making this stuff up? Seriously? Please tell me you're not saying that this woman would be so asinine as to make things up as she goes, right?

You've been pretty logical so far, but are you going to actually question the validity of her information now? If so, point to instances in the past where her work has been proven to be "Jayson Blair NYT-esque" or where she's quoted sources that were untrue or gave information that was false.

Under what pretense to you have to make the statement that the burden of proof is on me to prove her information correct? Are you saying that she's made it all up?

I like a good standup routine, but I've never seen one so impromptu as this....

Please, clear all this up for me...

 

well if your going to become a " Good Little Liberal" its your perogative. But dont you want to be right on topics and have an informed opinion. In order to do this you must be conservative.

I am only half kidding!!

I try to keep an open mind and i must admit on certain things i dont.

Even though i disagree with things you are saying thats what America is all about. We are probably not going to change each others views here. But good debate is fun and believe it or not you learn things.

And the best thing about us is we are LSU Tiger fans.

Geaux Tigers

 

By the way:

I lived in Dallas for 10 years and Houston for 10 Years. Shreveport , La. for 21 Years.

Damn i miss Louisiana Food!!!

Geaux Tigers

 

Your position is nonsensical. If you know these things to be facts, why did you come to the board to ask people to deprogram you. For example, on the surface of the earth, I weight 220 lbs. This is a fact. I would not go around asking people to refute this because I know it to be absolutely true. Now, you came to this board making broad, broad claims and asked people to refute them and deprogram you. If you know these to be facts, this would make you guilty of trolling.

I ask you this because I would like you provide independently verifiable sources in the proper historical context. I have many questions that I would like you to answer. However, if your position is that "it's in the Coulter book", then I need to know that too.

So, I ask my question again. Will you provide facts and references to back up your claims, or is your position that you will make claims and the burden is on others to refute your claims? It is a simple question: yes or no.