Obama to take over ABC June 24th to discuss.....

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i think the idea of a "moral high ground" is a farce. you do what you need to win. no need to find a reason to be guilty. i know which side is good and bad.

    when i advocate torturing my turban wearing sikh indian friends and neighbors, who are more anti-radical islam than i am, then you can remind me of this again.
     
  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    so you are saying everyone that was in gitmo was a terrorist? we cant even lock up the right people here in the states.
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    maybe they are, maybe they are not. we do our best. thats the way it is with justice. not everyone in jail in america, or in any other country, is a criminal. the system is not perfect. that doesnt mean you give up.

    my brother in law commands some sort of intelligence battalion or something. he captures terrorists in afghanistan. he has captured lots of dudes. when the cia comes to interrogate his captives, he watches them, so he doesnt get in trouble for poor treatment while the captives are under his control. and he has sent a couple guys to gitmo. only the hardest of the hardass lunatics go to gitmo. you have to truly be hardcore to go to gitmo.

    but maybe a couple dudes slip through the cracks. so be it. we are doing are best to capture the correct dudes.
     
  4. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    until he/family member is the innocent one who slips through the cracks, the tune would change on that radio.
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard in my life.
     
  6. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    which part:

    1. the assumption that all justice systems are imperfect
    2. the assumption that our guys are not trying to purposely imprison the innocent
    3. the assumption that we should continue to dole out justice even as we know that we are not perfect

    pretending that something you heard appears to be more ridiculous than other things you have heard, that isnt really an argument.
     
  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    to quote slim pickens from blazing sadles "you work your tongue prettier than a 20 dollar whore"

    i'm sorry but i do not believe that we should just detain everyone we can and force them to spew nonsense by waterboarding them. or create a naked muslim pyramid, sick dogs on them. we should not be in iraq, we never should have been there, we shouldnt have prisoners at gitmo, we should never have had them there, how is it any different than the concentration camps we had here during world war 2 with the japanese? If you are one of those person's who think that you are better than someone else because you are an american, then stop being a hypocrite and stooping to their level.
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Only Al Qaida in Iraq has beheaded American prisoners, most of them immediately after Abu Gharib, but they have stopped because it was a public relations disaster for them. We will have other enemies besides a couple of thousand Iraqi fanatics, many of them have more respect for human life.

    Certainly there is none to be gained in doing the wrong thing, either. We could start beheading POW's and it would not only be a public relations disaster for us, but it puts our own troops in danger. It's just un-American. If we are not fighting to preserve and protect the American Way, then what are we fighting for?
     
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  9. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i am glad we agree. not sure what you think i am saying. we should of course be detaining dangerous terrorists only.

    we were not really talking about that.

    why not? where should we pu them? even if you think all those guys happen to actually be innocent choirboys, where do you think we should take the actual terrorists, provided you believe they exist and dont think the wtc blew itself up?

    not sure what your point is. if you hate franklin roosevelt and his policies, i suppose we can discuss that.

    not sure why you would think that. i love foreigners, which is why i live in the most diverse neighborhood on earth. i am for free immigration so we can get more of the beautiful bastards over here. and i dont even particularly love america. i mean it is ok, but i dont care about stupid tribalism or ameican flag waving. i would happily move to ireland of hong kong or lots of other places, which in many ways are superior to america.

    perhaps you should rethink this idea that everyone that favors justice for terrorists is some sort of american flag waving neocon redneck.
     
  10. martin

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    daniel pearl was beheaded in pakistan, for no reason other than he was american and jewish. not because of our treatment of folks at gitmo.

    nobody suggests we should do as they are doing. we are not going to "sink to their level", that is absurd. we are not going to abduct folks randomly and behead them on video. we are simply going to capture and imprison terrorists, and get as much info from them as possible to prevent further terrorist activity. we dont do things because w are angry lunatics that like to see "infidels" killed.
     

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