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Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LSUDeek, Jun 16, 2009.

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TwistedTiger Founding Member

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Bandit88 said: ↑

I don't say this lightly, because I'm not an alarmist.

But, if true (I'm sceptical of the spin a little), this is scary.

I'll hold further comment until we see how this actually pans out. But so far, scary is the word.
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It's only scary if you're stupid enough to drink the koolaid.(not a shot at you) Anyone with half a brain and the ability to think for themselves knows that these networks are whoring themselves out to Hussein. Just because they serve it doesn't mean you have to drink it.

TwistedTiger, Jun 17, 2009

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LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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red55 said: ↑

It's his thread, amigo. He objects to plans and details not presented here. Then when challenged with the simple question "Why?", he declines to write a "dissertation" on it.

I can't counter his points unless he actually makes them.
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I didn't decline to write it. I simply said I can't do it at the moment.

Patience, you old salty academic.

LSUDeek, Jun 17, 2009

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red55 said: ↑

It's his thread, amigo. He objects to plans and details not presented here. Then when challenged with the simple question "Why?", he declines to write a "dissertation" on it.

I can't counter his points unless he actually makes them.
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I'm just trying to find some consistency in your logic. You won't argue general concepts but expect others to do so. I don't follow it, but then again I am very dumb.

LSUsupaFan, Jun 17, 2009

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LaSalleAve said: ↑

who watches abc news anyway.
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yeah seriously. i havent watched network news in ages. apparently it comes on at a certain time in the evening and you have to watch it right then, which is archaic. if i want the news i will see what google news has for me, or it i am really desperate for moving images i can go to the cable news networks, whichever one suits my biases. but the big networks? they still have news?

network news is dead, forget it. let them run obamercials if they want.

martin, Jun 17, 2009

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LSUMASTERMIND said: ↑

Also anything from the Drudge report is pretty slanted as well.
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people have that impression but it is not the case.

Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist / UCLA Newsroom

While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper's news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left.
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Five news outlets — "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," ABC's "Good Morning America," CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown," Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and the Drudge Report — were in a statistical dead heat in the race for the most centrist news outlet. Of the print media, USA Today was the most centrist.
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http://web.archive.org/web/20061128...ci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.pdf

Another result, which appears anomalous, is not so anomalous upon further examination. This is the estimate for the Drudge Report, which at 60.4, places it approximately in the middle of our mix of media outlets and approximately as liberal as a typical Southern Democrat, such as John Breaux (D–LA). We should emphasize that this estimate reflects both the news flashes that Matt Drudge reports and the news stories to which his site links on other web sites. In fact, of the entire 311 think-tank citations we found in the Drudge Report, only five came from reports written by Matt Drudge. Thus, for all intents and purposes, our estimate for the Drudge Report refers only to the articles to which the Report links on other web sites. Although the conventional wisdom often asserts that the Drudge Report is relatively conservative, we believe that the conventional wisdom would also assert that—if confined only to the news stories to which the Report links on other web sites—this set would have a slant approximately equal to the average slant of all media outlets, since, after all, it is comprised of stories from a broad mix of such outlets.
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LSUDeek said: ↑

I didn't decline to write it. I simply said I can't do it at the moment.

Patience, you old salty academic.
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Then I eagerly await your abstract, young savant. Do take your time on the dissertation, by all means. Jolly good show!

Jolly, jolly good.

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LSUsupaFan said: ↑

I'm just trying to find some consistency in your logic. You won't argue general concepts but expect others to do so. I don't follow it, but then again I am very dumb.
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I'll use small words. :wink:

In fact I did. I posed the simple, monosyllabic question, "Why?"

OK, Deek starts this thread and said "Stand up and say NO to universal healthcare.". And I wonder why I should stand up and say NO to universal healthcare, so I ask him, "why?"

Then you suggest that I'm badgering him for details when I simply asked him why I should follow his advice? You've got to be kidding . . .

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SabanFan said: ↑

And I'm not a blind Bush lover. My problem was always that he was treated unfairly by the liberal media and by the Democrats for purely political reasons.
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Seriously, SabanFan. You don't think that Bush's poor performance had anything at all to do with his bad press?

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martin said: ↑

yeah seriously. i havent watched network news in ages. apparently it comes on at a certain time in the evening and you have to watch it right then, which is archaic. if i want the news i will see what google news has for me, or it i am really desperate for moving images i can go to the cable news networks, whichever one suits my biases. but the big networks? they still have news?
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I quite agree on breaking news and current events. But the big networks have been around since radio days and have a vast network of contacts around the world. They have some very good reporters and still are relevant in their documentary reporting. They are pretty good a digging up backstories and compiling in-depth reports. The magazine news shows like 60-Minutes and the Special Reports are often very good.

But the days of anchors like Cronkite as the voice of good, reliable news is definitely gone the way of Edward R. Murrow radio reporting.

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red55 said: ↑

Seriously, SabanFan. You don't think that Bush's poor performance had anything at all to do with his bad press?
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His last 5 months in office were deserving of criticism.

The relentless whining and gnashing of teeth over Iraq, Katrina, Gitmo, etc. were onesided and totally undeserving. I can defend them as easily as you can criticize them.

Now, read carefully: You cannot change my mind on this so please don't try.

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