Obama: Sure, I'll meet with Castro, Chavez, Ahmadinejad, etc

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFSUbMWenU[/media]

 

I don't get it. You have Ronald Regan standing proudly over a nation in your avatar. The clip you provided uses Regan as an example in supporting his stated position. With the question posed in the clip, are you split on your support for both Regan and Obama?

 

Did you listen to the question? "Without precondition"?

It sounds like you, nor Obama have any idea how Reagan defeated the Soviet Union.

If Obama gets nominated, he will lose as bad as Mondale and Dukakis. He has so many flaws, it is unreal.

 

What precondition did Regan use to speak to the Russians? I am not defending Obama but I do understand the question. I just don't recall any preconditions on Regans part to communicate with the Bears. Gorbachev taking the helm only made talks easier for Regan.

My comment favored neither. Frankly I have not heard Obama explain the "then what" scenario if negotations fail. We have already spent many years negotationing with Iran, through multi-party negotations, the UN, etc. How would Obama do things differently?

Although I will vote, there is not one candidate currently for consideration I would cast a vote on. Once again I will write in my vote and it just may be you! At this point you are pinned in third behind Zack de la Rocha and Ted Nugent. :thumb:

 

Just how did Reagan defeat the Soviet Union? Let me guess, by goading them into an arms race and bankrupting them, right?

The Soviet Union was already teetering on the verge of collapse, from corruption within, and the fact that communisim is unrealistic, and always doomed to fail or starve it's people (see Cuba) Ronald Reagan's arms build up didn't help them any, but make no mistake, the old Soviet Union was going down anyway.

You really need to quit listening to the revisionist historians, Hannity, Rush (the biggest hypocrite in the world) Limabaugh and Fox (fair and balanced my ass) News.

 

I love and admire Reagan. However, please remember that not only did he speak to them, but he SOLD FREAKING WEAPONS TO IRAN

 

The Iran-Contra affair was a political scandal which was revealed in 1986 as a result of earlier events during the Reagan administration. It began as an operation to increase U.S.-Iranian relations, wherein Israel would ship weapons to a moderate, politically influential group of Iranians opposed to the Ayatollah Khomeni; the U.S. would reimburse Israel with those weapons and receive payment from Israel. The moderate Iranians agreed to do everything in their power to achieve the release of six U.S. hostages, who were being held by Hezbollah. The plan eventually deteriorated into an arms-for-hostages scheme, in which members of the executive branch sold weapons to Iran in exchange for the release of the American hostages, without the direct authorization of President Ronald Reagan. Large modifications to the plan were conjured by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985. In North's plan, a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua. While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,[4] he did not authorize this plan, nor was he aware that the funds were being sent to the Contras.

After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Ronald Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages. The investigation was compounded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials. On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages."

Many investigations ensued, including those by the United States Congress and the three-man, Reagan-appointed "Tower Commission". Neither could find any evidence that Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs. In the end, fourteen administration officials were charged with crimes, and eleven convicted, including Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger. They were all pardoned in the final days of the George H. W. Bush presidency, who had been vice-president at the time.

Iran-Contra affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

you've seem to have dug yourself into a hole here Joe, It will be interesting to see you climb out of this one.

Kennedy did the same thing
Nixon as well
Ronny as everyone else has pointed out here.
Oh yea and Bush too:thumb: