In the #wisconsin room of Dalnet: [20:57] <Rex_Goodheart> Listen up, people. If Wisconsin's electoral votes go to George Bush I'm never going to root for the Packers again. Understand? [20:57] <Rex_Goodheart> What is wrong with you people? I thought you were supposed to be progressive? Get out there and get out the vote for John Kerry. [20:58] <htr> uhh [20:58] <htr> i plan on it [21:15] <Rex_Goodheart> htr, how many votes will you deliver for John Kerry? [21:15] <htr> one [21:15] <Rex_Goodheart> i;m working real hard here in south carolina, but this state is hopeless [21:15] <Rex_Goodheart> I wish I could be helping out in one of the close states [21:15] <htr> it's not really close here [21:15] * Enendar ([email protected]) has joined #wisconsin [21:16] <htr> fact is that the rural areas are becoming populus enough that they are taking over [21:16] <Rex_Goodheart> not really close? [21:16] <Rex_Goodheart> In whose favor? [21:17] <Rex_Goodheart> ok, now you've got me depressed [21:17] <htr> wisconsin isn't the liberal educated state it used to be [21:17] <Rex_Goodheart> Bush winning the White House again would be a disaster. [21:17] <Rex_Goodheart> Kerry is going to swing by there next week. [21:18] <Rex_Goodheart> He got huge crowds in Ohio and Minnesota. [21:18] <Rex_Goodheart> maybe it will make a difference [21:18] <htr> yeah he met huge crouds here to [21:20] <Rex_Goodheart> Good Christian values mean sending people off to war on lies to fight a Crusade against Muslims. [21:21] <htr> they are not chistians. [21:21] <htr> kill emm all [21:21] <htr> i was in iraq ..... [21:21] * angeliis ([email protected]) has joined #wisconsin [21:21] <Rex_Goodheart> when? [21:22] <htr> till this spring [21:23] <Rex_Goodheart> in what capacity? [21:23] <htr> combat engineer [21:23] <htr> army national guard [21:24] <htr> was there for a year [21:24] * I8URDOG ([email protected]) has joined #wisconsin [21:24] <Rex_Goodheart> htr, I'm glad you made it out safe. My nephew is going soon. I told him not to go. [21:24] <htr> well ... i see it this way [21:25] <htr> we are there [21:25] <htr> we are now responsible [21:25] <htr> and we don't need bush giving us even more responsibilities [21:26] <htr> most actually like the fact we are there [21:27] <htr> we made the situation worse [21:27] <Rex_Goodheart> htr, listen to this story... will take a few lines: [21:27] <htr> the fact is we ARE responsible now [21:27] <htr> don't forget i was there .. talking to people... [21:28] <Rex_Goodheart> are the troops really against the war, but afraid to speak out? [21:29] <htr> umm [21:29] <htr> mostly yes [21:29] <Rex_Goodheart> Man [21:29] <Rex_Goodheart> Get our young people the hell out of there [21:29] <htr> i have a very hard time believing press polls of soldiers in iraq saying 70% are voting for bush .. when the whole time i was there only one person said he liked bush [21:30] <Rex_Goodheart> htr, that was a poll taken by "The Army Times"... mostly of officers [21:30] <htr> heh [21:30] <htr> officers rarely leave the wire [21:33] <Rex_Goodheart> The one thing in this whole matter that angers me the most... [21:33] <Rex_Goodheart> well, there are two things, actually [21:33] * Enendar ([email protected]) has joined #wisconsin [21:33] <htr> heh [21:33] <htr> go ahead [21:34] <Rex_Goodheart> On the night Bush launched the war... when he dropped a bomb on Saddam's bunker, witnesses said he whooped with glee: "It feels good!" he hollered [21:34] <Rex_Goodheart> now, what kind of an individual would say something like that? [21:35] <htr> a normal person who's father had a hit put on [21:35] <Rex_Goodheart> And the second thing... even WORSE [21:35] <Rex_Goodheart> When he joked about not finding the WMD's. "Are they under here?" he joked, while looking under a chair. [21:35] <htr> heh [21:36] <Rex_Goodheart> Sorry, but that crap is just not funny, and I think it shows that the man doesn't care. [21:36] <Rex_Goodheart> "Bring 'em on!" [21:36] <htr> that pissed alot of us off [21:37] <htr> we were like "yeah bring emm on ... that ****ing ******* how about he send his girls so we can **** emm going down the road getting shot at .. that sob" [21:37] <htr> lol
well, martin... then maybe you'd like to chat with him yourself. Do you know how to log on to the Dalnet IRC network? You will find him there in channel #wisconsin
FightinTiger, Kerry voted to give Bush the authority to use force IF NECESSARY, contingent upon exhausting diplomatic remedies.... war as a last resort. Kerry said those things on the very date he voted, on October 22, 2002. Read his statement on the matter. Bush hurried to war because he was hell-bent on it, and his case for warfare was falling apart... he could not afford to have Hans Blix come back with more reports saying no WMDs could be found. Why can't you see this obvious truth? Please wake up. Do you have children? Bush has made this world less safe.
isn't that something, I spoke to him too at the same exact time. musta been a dalnet bot. [20:57] <tirk> Listen up, people. If Wisconsin's electoral votes go to kerry I'm never going to root for the Packers again. Understand? [20:57] <tirk> What is wrong with you people? I thought you were supposed to be progressive? Get out there and get out the vote for GW. [20:58] <htr> uhh [20:58] <htr> i plan on it [21:15] <tirk> htr, how many votes will you deliver for bush? [21:15] <htr> one [21:15] <tirk> i;m working real hard here in california, but this state is hopeless [21:15] <tirk> I wish I could be helping out in one of the close states [21:15] <htr> it's not really close here [21:16] <htr> fact is that the rural areas are becoming populus enough that they are taking over [21:16] <tirk> not really close? [21:16] <tirk> In whose favor? [21:17] <tirk> ok, now you've got me depressed [21:17] <htr> wisconsin is the biggest liberal state ever [21:17] <tirk> kerry winning the White House would be a disaster. [21:17] <tirk> Bush is going to swing by there next week. [21:18] <tirk> He got huge crowds in Pennsylvania and Mizzou. [21:18] <tirk> maybe it will make a difference [21:18] <htr> yeah he met huge crouds here too [21:20] <tirk> Good American values means ending this Muslim Islamic Fascism to protect our children's futures. [21:21] <htr> we are the infidel [21:21] <htr> we should kill all muslims [21:21] <htr> i was in iraq ..... [21:21] <tirk> when? [21:22] <htr> till this spring [21:23] <tirk> in what capacity? [21:23] <htr> combat engineer [21:23] <htr> army national guard [21:24] <htr> was there for a year [21:24] <tirk> htr, I'm glad you made it out safe. I wish I could go. [21:24] <htr> well ... i see it this way [21:25] <htr> we are there [21:25] <htr> we are now responsible [21:25] <htr> and we don't need kerry weakening our resolve. [21:26] <htr> most actually like the fact we are there [21:27] <htr> we will finish the deal [21:27] <tirk> htr, listen to this story... will take a few lines: [21:27] <htr> the fact is we ARE responsible now and will do what it takes. [21:27] <htr> don't forget i was there .. talking to people... [21:28] <tirk> are the troops really against the war, but afraid to speak out? [21:29] <htr> umm [21:29] <htr> mostly no, just those selfish pussies care only for themselves. [21:29] <tirk> Man [21:29] <tirk> I am proud of our young servicemen and women. [21:29] <htr> i have a very hard time believing press polls of soldiers in iraq saying 70% are voting for kerry .. when the whole time i was there ALL of them said he liked BUSH [21:30] <tirk> htr, that was a poll taken by "The Army Times"... mostly of officers [21:30] <htr> heh [21:30] <htr> officers rarely leave the wire [21:33] <tirk> The one thing in this whole matter that angers me the most... [21:33] <tirk> well, there are two things, actually [21:33] <htr> heh [21:33] <htr> go ahead [21:34] <tirk> On the night kerry voted for the war... he begged bush to drop a bomb on Saddam's bunker, witnesses said he whooped with glee: "It feels good!" he hollered then he said he voted against it. [21:34] <tirk> now, what kind of an individual would say something like that? [21:35] <htr> a normal person who's money grubbing wife had a hit put on [21:35] <tirk> And the second thing... even WORSE [21:35] <tirk> When he joked about finding the Heinz Ketchup. "Are they under here?" he joked, while looking under a chair. [21:35] <htr> heh [21:36] <tirk> Sorry, but that crap is just not funny, and I think it shows that the man doesn't care. [21:37] <htr> lol [21:37] <htr> Please don't vote for kerry and tell everyone you know. thanks.
yes i know how to use irc, and no thanks. i could talk with any number of people in the military who think one way or another, doesnt make much difference. i know where i stand. a random person you talked to on irc makes no difference to me.
Wake up, FightnTiger Watch this commercial, then read the letter below. Time for you to wake up. http://www.winbackrespect.org/ads/ To Whom it May Concern, I found out that my brother, Sergeant Ryan M. Campbell, was dead during a graduate seminar at Emory University on April 29, 2004. Immediately after a uniformed officer knocked at my mother's door to deliver the message that broke her heart, she called me on my cell phone. She could say nothing but "He's gone." I could say nothing but "No." Over and over again we chanted this refrain to each other over the phone as I made my way across the country to hold her as she wept. I had made the very same trip in February, cutting classes to spend my brother's two weeks' leave from Baghdad with him. Little did I know then that the next time I saw him would be at Arlington National Cemetery. During those days in February, my brother shared with me his fear, his disillusionment, and his anger. "We had all been led to believe that Iraq posed a serious threat to America as well as its surrounding nations," he said. "We invaded expecting to find weapons of mass destruction and a much more prepared and well-trained Republican Guard waiting for us. It is now a year later, and alas, no weapons of mass destruction or any other real threat, for that matter." Ryan was scheduled to complete his one-year assignment to Iraq on April 25. But on April 11, he emailed me to let me know not to expect him in Atlanta for a May visit, because his tour of duty had been involuntarily extended. "Just do me one big favor, ok?" he wrote. "Don't vote for Bush. No. Just don't do it. I would not be happy with you." Last night, I listened to George W. Bush's live, televised speech at the Republican National Convention. He spoke to me and my family when he announced, "I have met with parents and wives and husbands who have received a folded flag, and said a final goodbye to a soldier they loved. I am awed that so many have used those meetings to say that I am in their prayers and to offer encouragement to me. Where does strength like that come from? How can people so burdened with sorrow also feel such pride? It is because they know their loved one was last seen doing good. Because they know that liberty was precious to the one they lost. And in those military families, I have seen the character of a great nation: decent, and idealistic, and strong." This is my reply: Mr. President, I know that you probably still "don't do body counts," so you may not know that almost one thousand U.S. troops have died doing what you told them they had to do to protect America. Ryan was Number 832. Liberty was, indeed, precious to the one I lost-- so precious that he would rather have gone to prison than back to Iraq in February. Like you, I don't know where the strength for "such pride" on the part of people "so burdened with sorrow" comes from; maybe I spent it all holding my mother as she wept. I last saw my loved one at the Kansas City airport, staring after me as I walked away. I could see April 29 written on his sad, sand-chapped and sunburned face. I could see that he desperately wanted to believe that if he died, it would be while "doing good," as you put it. He wanted us to be able to be proud of him. Mr. President, you gave me and my mother a folded flag instead of the beautiful boy who called us "Moms" and "Brookster." But worse than that, you sold my little brother a bill of goods. Not only did you cheat him of a long meaningful life, but you cheated him of a meaningful death. You are in my prayers, Mr. President, because I think that you need them more than anyone on the face of the planet. But you will never get my vote. So to whom it may concern: Don't vote for Bush. No. Just don't do it. I would not be happy with you." Sincerely, Brooke M. Campbell Atlanta, GA
rex, there were other reasons for going to war in iraq, besides wmd. read this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/12/national/main521781.shtml
martin... of course he was dead during the ceremony, and nobody noticed because he was in a box in Iraq. For you to mock somebody's suffering like that says a lot about you. And as far as your cbsnews article goes, Saddam WAS allowing UN inspectors to go wherever they chose, and dismantled weapons as soon as he was ordered to. There was no hurry to invade, except that Bush was running out of reasons.
