most overrated football player.

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  1. MFn G I M P

    MFn G I M P Founding Member

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    In hopes of trying to get people to talk about something else who do yall think is the most overrated football player?

    I personally think it is Joe Namath as he only had 1 year where he threw more TD's than INTs (1965), finished his career with 47 more interceptions than TD's (173 TDs to 220 INTs), and finished a smidgen above 50% in career completion percentage (50.1% and only above 50% 6 times in 13 years). His career per game averages were 13.5-26.9 (50.2%) for 197.6 yards with 1.2 TDs and 1.5 int's a game and only 4.8 yards per attempt.
     
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    Joe's contributions weren't just in stats. He helped to make the superbowl what it is today. He helped to make the qb a glamour star position. Before Joe qb's didn't get national endorsements or were celebrated like baseball players were. He was important socially and politically. He was part of the 60's liberation movements. Him and Ali were the two most important athletes socially and politically in the 60s.
     
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    MFn G I M P Founding Member

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    Well Joe only led his team to winning records 4 of his 13 years finishing with a 84-94-4. He also only played in 1 superbowl. He may have been important socially and politically that doesn't mean he isn't one of the most overrated players.
     
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    Namath definitely a top 10 candidate for most overrated NFL player ever.

    If you believe the QB efficiency rating is a tell tale sign of how good a QB is, then you would have to say John Elway is definitely overrated. His career rating is 79.9 with 300 TDs and 226 Ints. That's worse than Aaron Brooks career rating of 81.5 and who has much better TD/Int ratio of 105/65.

    I think there are many people that would say Elway is one of the top 5 QBs of all time, but those stats tell a much different story.
     
  5. MFn G I M P

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    Elway is the only player to have started in 5 superbowls, winning 2 of them. He was also a 9 time pro-bowler, led his teams to 41 game winning drives (an NFL record) and 6 game-saving drives(6 of this game winning drives coming in the postseason), while he was quarterback his teams went 148-82-1(.643) , he is the only quarterback to throw for 3,000 yards and run for at least 200 in 7 straight seasons, and he had 12 seasons where he threw for at least 3000 yards. He also had a 14-7 playoff record, and he has the best record in Conference Championship games.

    edited to say 6 of this game winning drives coming in the postseason not 7.
     
  6. MFn G I M P

    MFn G I M P Founding Member

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    I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought that the QB passer rating was a sign of how good a QB is, in a seperate post I showed the record he led his teams too as it doesn't matter how well you play as quarterback as long as you win games, which Namath only did less than 50% of the time.
     
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    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    I just think most people would actually be astonished to learn that Aaron Brooks, at this stage in his career, is "playing better" stats wise than Elway did his entire career.
     
  8. MFn G I M P

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    If Brooks could get his fumbling under control and actually "care" about the game he could become a decent quarterback. He has shown the ability to lead the Saints to come from behind wins, in the past couple of games he has done it and i think he already has like 12 come from behind victories already.
     
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    I don't know. I kind of think a player who absolutely crashes and burns on the next level due to lack of talent is "overrated" to me.

    I'll say...Gino Toretta.
     
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    If you want to look at QB rating, isn't Mike Vick in the 80's?
     

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