McCain/ Obama Who are you voting for and why?

I'm with sabanfan...

 

You completely miss the fallacy in your own example. McCain chose to have his flings, Bill chose his puffed joint, Barack chose Rev Wright(don't forget his drug use), but exactly how did Palin choose to have her daughter have sex and get pregnant?

If you think you can control the actions of your teenagers, you are insane. You can guide, teach and monitor, but unless you chain them to the basement, you cannot control them. I had one sister that started doing drugs at age 12, and a brother that sold drugs for a few years. I have never even smoked a joint myself, and two other siblings didn't either. Where did my parents screw up? I taught both my daughters to follow the same path but unfortunately they have both tried drugs in some capacity and had sex before marriage. Fortunately for them, the consequences have only been the blow to their self esteem and nothing else. I know for a fact that I am a good parent, and my daughters would tell you the same thing. However they, along with my sister, my brother, myself as a teen, and every other teen in the world is at the very least, 1/2 responsible for their own decisions.

The fact that so many people are gleefully attacking Palin because of this is disgusting. Pick apart her record or her own personal choices if you must, but not those of her children. Even Obama has the decency to know, and state that it has no relevance to serving in public office, and does not belong in public discussions.

It amazes me that anyone would do that here. Good luck with your own children.

 

y'all act like kids never turn out a certain way because of bad parenting. id say more times than not that is the case.

we dont know if bill inhaled, barack believes rev wright's crap or why mccain had flings (ok, that last one's a stretch). just like we dont know if palin's daughter is in this situation in part because of parental deficiency.

this wouldnt affect my decision one bit, but i think its reasonable to include a judgment about this situation in a voter's decision--especially for someone so unknown.

what i really dont get is how judging palin is going to affect how my kids turn out. this crap happened to her family, if you dont think she's beating herself up over this either youre wrong or she's detached. so if its reasonable for her to beat herself up over it, then i can reasonably add this to my decision making process.

 

I never said that. The media and you assume this has happened and even Obama/Biden say it is irrelevant and out of bounds. Why do you think smearing children is fair game?

You don't know, but make an assumption that it could be, just as the liberal media has assumed it is.

So let me get this straight. It's reasonable for a voter to consider this - just not you? Trying to cling on to the high moral ground yourself while justifying the left smearing her and her daughter?

Because you don't get it. Teenagers make all sorts of decisions that are wrong and are judged harshly for it. Just as the media and yourself are judging Palin now. That does not make it morally or ethically right. If you have teenagers, you may well face the challenge of dealing with their poor decisions. I hope you welcome the public criticism if/when it turns on you and yours.

Somehow I don't think you will.

 

what?! "make and assumption that it could be"? of course it could be. its not an assumption.

i did consider it. just dont find it to be a valid reason to not vote for mccain. i havent heard smearing btw. im sure its out there by the extremists, but just by reporting that her daughter is pregnant or asking politicians questions about it is not smearing. have you heard of any reputable reporter saying you shouldnt vote for mccain because palin's daughter is pregnant?

no, i wont welcome the public criticism. but if i run for office, the public should feel free not to vote for me.

dont you think that if obama had a 17 yr old daughter that had to have a shotgun wedding to keep from having a bastard that the right would be ridiculing?

 

I'd be surprised if Obama's daughter would have the baby in that circumstance. I'm sure she'd be ridiculed for whatever decision she made, but I think the decision to have the child is a step in the right direction anyway.

 

The fact of the matter is that they should leave this womans children alone, now matter if its her or Obama or anyone else. Children are off limits. Thats a private personal matter.

 

You must be living under a rock.

No, actually I don't. And if it happened, I would be the first to condemn it because children are supposed to be off limits. Apparently your candidate gets that, but you don't. Glad to know you think smearing children is a valid. It says quite a bit.

 

That was a real Christian way of phrasing it Mr. Hypocrite. :dis:

 

she would have been assailed for having an abortion and is now being scrutinized negatively because of having the child......and i thought the left were champions of womens's rights to choose...