Marbury proving he is one of the stupidest people alive

marbury is saying that it is a sport, and that killing is just part of the sport.

if this is the case, then why don't we make a rule saying everytime the knicks lose, someone on the knicks team gets killed.

i'm sure he wouldn't like that idea too much.

point being is that the animal doesn't have a choice in the matter.

 

animals shouldn't get to make any choices. for all of history we have decided animal's fate for them.

i do not expect anyone to agree with me. the issue is too emotional. too many of us have dogs we love. that is why you are all wrong.

 

Kill to eat
Torture for fun

You are a smart guy. There is no way this distinction is lost on you. I get mad when people torture cats, and I categorically hate cats.

 

i get mad too, i cant stand the sight of animal killing. i wasnt joking when i told the story of the mouse i caught, i hated it.

but just because i do not approve doesnt make something wrong.

hunting is a sport, it isnt for food. you do not need 400 pounds of venison. it is torture to shoot a deer and follow the blood through the woods until you can put another bullet in its head. perfectly valid point from marbury.

but hunting is none of my business. you want to kill animals for sport, just keep it out of my sight, i am not into that scene. same thing with dog fighting. it doesnt bother me if i have nothing to do with it.

animals do not have rights. you own them, you do what you want. you can eat them if you want.


if love cows and i have a pet cow and we play games in the park, it doesnt mean i have the right to tell you not to use a big nailgun to kill cows by the thousands. and it doesnt matter why you kill. either the animal has rights or he doesnt. he doesnt care if you eat him or just kill him for laughs. he is dead just the same.

if i kill an animal and eat it, or if michael vick kills an animal just to laugh at it dying, we both have done the same thing, kill an animal. his motivation is politically incorrect, but so what. we both are just as guilty.

 

hunting is needed, whether by sport or not. if people didnt shoot deer, a honda civic would. plus, their meet and other animals provide thousands of families meals throughout the year including christmas.

i eat almost every animal i kill/catch, except most billfish. and even then i tag them for scientific research.

 

As much as I disagree with your stance on this isue, you are right with this sentence.

 

do you think the animal killed only for fun gives a damn that he wasnt eaten?

does he have the right to life unless we eat him? what rights does he have exactly?

the reason we are all up in arms is not because animals are being hurt. it because our feelings are being hurt.

 

You have claimed the same things before and they sound equally hollow now. There are no similarities to hunting and dog fighting other than the actual death of an animal. By your logic, a serial killer is the same as soldier in war, simply because they both cause the death of another individual. According to you, there is no distinction of circumstance, merely the final outcome. Ummm....ok.

Your slavish adherence to absolutisms in regards to your personal rights to do anything, as long as nobody tells you what to do, simply don't work. You can also claim that it is merely emotion that people are reacting on, and there may be some truth to that, but that is not the only thing wrong with this picture.

It has nothing to do with animal rights. Nobody has invoked animal rights, though I challenge you to beat the crap out of your dog in front of your house every day, and see if you don't eventually wind up in jail. People that can repeatedly take pleasure in the torture of other sentient organisms suffer from sociopathic disorders that lead to many more problems for the rest of society. Condoning or even ignoring the learned behavior that this represents, endangers others in many ways. I am not really up for encouraging or ignoring sociopathic, aggressive men and all the illegal activities that are spawned as a result of dogfighting. You can choose to stick your head in the sand on this issue, but the rest of the country will not.

 

Are you three years old? :yelwink2:

We're all up in arms because it is highly against the law.

Aw Bambi has feelings. Will I see Bambi and his swoll ass dad in Heaven?

Good Lord, we all know the differences.

 

no, because the serial killer kills the innocent. the soldier kills people trying to kill him. dogs are innocent in all cases.

when they lead to these other problems, arrest them then.

you are saying dogfighting is bad in the same sense that some people say violent video games are bad? it leads to bad behavior?

laws and right and wrong do not always correlate.